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Date:      Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Cliff Skolnick <cliff@steam.com>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga )
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9905101316390.418-100000@lazlo.internal.steam.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca>

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It seems to have solved my deadlock problems.  I'm running w/o it now, ready
to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup.  I'm expecting it
within a few hours.

Cliff

On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:

> At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first 
> >announced.  It locked the system up solid within seconds.  After 
> >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of 
> >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no 
> >hang.  The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang.
> 
> 
> That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been
> applied to the tree ?  i.e. does it have any adverse side effects
> preventing it from being committed ?
> 
> 	---Mike
> 
> 
> >In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike 
> >Tancsa writes:
> >> At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote:
> >> >
> >> >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov 
> >> >writes:
> >> >> Just FYI:
> >> >> 
> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime
> >> >> 2.2.1-RELEASE
> >> >> 10:02PM  up 115 days,  5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14
> >> >> (last reboot was due to <Ctrl-Alt-Del>)
> >> >> 
> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime
> >> >> 3.1-STABLE
> >> >> 10:02PM  up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11
> >> >> (last reboot was due to system freeze)
> >> >
> >> >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur 
> >> >on every system.  For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R 
> >> >system.  Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid.  The fourth one, 
> >> >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a 
> >> >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running 
> >> >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and 
> >> >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon.  The system is 
> >> >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs.  PR 8416 might hold 
> >> >some promise of fixing this.
> >> 
> >> Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on
> >> one of my systems...
> >> 
> >> e.g.
> >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; &
> >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; &
> >> 
> >> will lock a 3.x box solid.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel 01.519.651.3400
> Network Administrator,     			  mike@sentex.net
> Sentex Communications                 		  www.sentex.net
> Cambridge, Ontario Canada
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