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Date:      Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:39:16 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Stephen Hurd <shurd@sasktel.net>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Gerrit =?utf-8?B?S8O8aG4=?= <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Matt Bettinger <iamatt@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?
Message-ID:  <20140720123916.GV96250@e-new.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <CALfReyfkZY1ZDNohP6npRVQfjBK2M6j59R8idUGazr1yJDX3Jg@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <53C706C9.6090506@com.jkkn.dk> <20140718110645.GN87212@FreeBSD.org> <20140718151255.b3e677d9.gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> <CALfReycHtSi5GXgFZihrTsgDG6wc-ZfkYmQu7AjQmOKdeXntrA@mail.gmail.com> <CAEeRwNV3bJrM5KrGObZtNvSY1mVMW9jz2M4t2m2SSq_vvWmZ5w@mail.gmail.com> <CALfReyfWJd7YOi_Y8Mq=Q-xndLueF7vU5xwc1w_YGyM1a9DQZA@mail.gmail.com> <53CA2D39.6000204@sasktel.net> <CALfReyfkZY1ZDNohP6npRVQfjBK2M6j59R8idUGazr1yJDX3Jg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote:
> all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of
> pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people,
> which puts them off. Its a classic case of divide an conquer for other
> platforms. I really like the idea of the openpf version, that has been
> mentioned in this thread. It would be awesome if it ended up as a supported
> linux thing as well, so the world could be rid of iptables. However i guess
> thats just an unrealistic dream

And you don't seem to get the point that _someone_ has to do the work.
No one has stepped up so far, so nothing is going to change.

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