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Date:      Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:57:48 -0600
From:      George Wenzel <gee2@realtime.net>
To:        Troy Settle <rewt@i-Plus.net>
Cc:        "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Aliased IPs
Message-ID:  <367A0AFC.49D5@realtime.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981217071724.2973A-100000@Radford.i-Plus.net>

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Troy Settle wrote:
> 
> If you want to talk about inefficient use of IP space, look at the people
> who still hold their Class-{A,B,C} networks.  Having this portable space
> is insane, especially when a university has 2 Class-B networks, and then
> subnets it out so that a lab with 24 workstations has a full /24.
> 
> A Class-A has >16 million addresses.  Can anyone on this list suggest any
> organization that can make _efficient_ use of it?  No?  Didn't think so.
> 
I have several corporate customers with B's.  Most of them got the
addresses
well before connecting to the Internet.  These are medium to small
firms.
I've got huge clients existing on much less.  

There is a LOT of space that needs to be harvested from inefficient 
allocation.  ISP's need to be the leaders of efficiency.  If we were to
do our job correctly, those inefficient allocations should be able to
be eliminated in a painless manner... no one should have to renumber.
NAT has it's flaws, but sooner or later we will all be using it.  ISP's
should be able to maintain their own address space consisting of as many
full address spaces as they feel like translating.  Part of what we need 
is better central site software and systems, but that is coming.

I'm confident the world will never run out of ip addresses.  When we
think
we are out, we will learn to multiply.  It is really a simple
engineering
problem.  

There are no limits except those in our heads.

George

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