Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:55:22 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt <brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de> To: developers@FreeBSD.org Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/bsnmp - Imported sources Message-ID: <20031110174537.U53715@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <20031110163941.GA74723@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200311100853.hAA8rchS095414@repoman.freebsd.org> <20031110103409.R29745@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20031110104611.U29745@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20031110111035.G29745@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20031110163941.GA74723@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, David O'Brien wrote: DO>On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:24:50AM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote: DO>> KK>The problem is that it's code that is useless to 99% of the FreeBSD DO>> KK>userbase, so it's unclear whether it belongs in the base system DO>> KK>instead of ports. DO>... DO>> Most of the code is under NOATM so it shouldn't pose a problem for DO>> people who don't need it. DO> DO>Committers can't run with NOATM as they could too-easily break the build DO>by not testing a full 'make world'. Sure. But committers are a sub-set of current users. DO> DO>> Also this is is a mid-term replacement for the otherwise un-maintained DO>> HARP code. DO> DO>Are there plans to HARP 'cvs rm'ed? The official HARP isn't maintained anymore. Our HARP is maintained very weakly. It was broken for longer amounts of time because no committer had the interest/equipment/knowledge to work on it. People were forced to stick with -stable or got Linux. I'm also not sure HARP will be 64-bit ready beyound just beeing compilable. There are a lot of fragile places in HARP with regard to mbuf handling, and so on... I think we can remove HARP mid-term (for 6.0) given this state. NgATM will soon support everything what HARP does plus ABR, plus LAN emulation support, remove configuration and a large testsuite for the protocols. It is actively maintained. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de, harti@freebsd.org
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