Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:52:38 +0100 From: Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de> To: Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> Cc: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Conrad Meyer <cem@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r326758 - in head/sys/i386: conf include Message-ID: <7A052A1A-EFB4-489D-B8DF-C8080AD59A20@fh-muenster.de> In-Reply-To: <5A2EB072.6050803@grosbein.net> References: <201712110432.vBB4WbnE021090@repo.freebsd.org> <20171211091943.GF2272@kib.kiev.ua> <5A2E5D44.9030904@grosbein.net> <20171211105242.GH2272@kib.kiev.ua> <5A2E6608.5090205@grosbein.net> <20171211150827.GJ2272@kib.kiev.ua> <5A2EB072.6050803@grosbein.net>
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--Apple-Mail=_56BF839B-7AEA-4AD5-BAFD-3F54C26E752B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 11. Dec 2017, at 17:21, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> wrote: >=20 > 11.12.2017 22:08, Konstantin Belousov =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 06:03:36PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >>> I do not try to contradict other usage patterns. In fact, I'm eager = to know >>> a practical example of such pattern: a task, an application, = anything real? >> Plain workstation use, like X11+browser+editor+some other programs = easily >> allocates 1000+ threads. It was still possible to use 32bit x86 for = that, >> of course in max memory config without PAE, and without ZFS. Add = some >> load that involves network, for instance torrent client, to establish = the >> pressure on KVA. >>=20 >> I am almost sure that users would get troubles now. >=20 > Understood. While I'm sure that modern internet browsers make it = unconfortable > to browse with less than 4G total RAM (e.g. 2GB) available for the = system thus requiring amd64, > I can imagine some old hardware without 64bit-enabled CPU used as = workstation. >=20 > We should add Release Notes and UPDATING entry for such i386 users = about > setting "kern.kstack_pages=3D2" back in /boot/loader.conf (or 3?) > and warn them against combined usage of ZFS/SCTP/IPSEC until these = subsystems get fixed > to not abuse kernel stack. Not sure about IPSEC and ZFS. But I was NOT able to reproduce the issue = by just using an SCTP association on a 32-bit VM using FreeBSD 11.1. So right now I = don't know what is wrong and therefore what could be fixed... Best regards Michael >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_56BF839B-7AEA-4AD5-BAFD-3F54C26E752B Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIQkDCCBNUw ggO9oAMCAQICCFBOxvU9EbRkMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMHExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRwwGgYDVQQK ExNEZXV0c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIEFHMR8wHQYDVQQLExZULVRlbGVTZWMgVHJ1c3QgQ2VudGVyMSMw IQYDVQQDExpEZXV0c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIFJvb3QgQ0EgMjAeFw0xNDA3MjIxMjA4MjZaFw0xOTA3 MDkyMzU5MDBaMFoxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRMwEQYDVQQKEwpERk4tVmVyZWluMRAwDgYDVQQLEwdE Rk4tUEtJMSQwIgYDVQQDExtERk4tVmVyZWluIFBDQSBHbG9iYWwgLSBHMDEwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDpm8NnhfkNrvWNVMOWUDU9YuluTO2U1wBblSJ01CDrNI/W7MAx BAuZgeKmFNJSoCgjhIt0iQReW+DieMF4yxbLKDU5ey2QRdDtoAB6fL9KDhsAw4bpXCsxEXsM84Ik Q4wcOItqaACa7txPeKvSxhObdq3u3ibo7wGvdA/BCaL2a869080UME/15eOkyGKbghoDJzANAmVg Te3RCSMqljVYJ9N2xnG2kB3E7f81hn1vM7PbD8URwoqDoZRdQWvY0hD1TP3KUazZve+Sg7va64sW 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