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Date:      Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:56:20 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@FreeBSD.ORG>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RANDOMDEV inspired realitycheck regarding i386/i486...
Message-ID:  <3A160BF4.1D05C638@softweyr.com>
References:  <200011151723.KAA12325@usr01.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> 
> > > > What is the consensus ?
> > >
> > > What is the current processor of choice for embedded stuff?  Is
> > > x86 even a good architecture for embedded work?  That is the
> > > only place that I would see the 386 still being alive...
> >
> > x86 has never been a good CPU for embedded. [eyes his trusty books
> > collection for Motorola's 680x0 ;) ]
> 
> The Motorola strategy is broken; the processor they are selling
> for Palm Pilots has no MMU.  It's no good for most embedded work
> (and is barely good enough for making Palm Pilots unstable with
> one single bad program).
> 
> Cyrix, AMD, and various Card PCs are all 386-class CPUs.  The
> IBM "Blue Lightning" core is a 386 class core, which is used
> to implement macrocell based embedded ASICs.  Intel has two
> 386 macrocells that are used for embedded work.  I'd have to
> say that not even the 80186 was dead yet...

	http://www.zflinux.com/

Embedded x86 for the masses.

The Intel information appliance reference designs are great little boards,
too, if a bit more pricey in eval form.  ZFLinux has been quoting prices
of ~ $300 - $400 for eval boards.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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