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Date:      04 Jul 2002 19:43:20 -0700
From:      Chip Wiegand <chip@wiegand.org>
To:        Nils Vogels <nivo+freebsd-questions@yuckfou.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [OT] ISP anti-spam
Message-ID:  <1025837001.35866.4.camel@chip.wiegand.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020704200741.GL69958@amor.yuckfou.org>
References:  <200207040113.g641DFL87663@tierzero.apana.org.au> <208425312.1025768862@sauron>  <20020704200741.GL69958@amor.yuckfou.org>

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On Thu, 2002-07-04 at 13:07, Nils Vogels wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 07:47:42AM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> > 
> > --On jeudi 4 juillet 2002 10:48 +0930 Brian Astill
> > <bastill@sa.apana.org.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > There seems to be a movement among ISPs to "help" us by applying
> > > spamassasin  (or similar) to all mail they handle - IN or OUT.
> > > Is this an invasion of privacy?
> > > Is such behaviour dangerous, in suggesting to political control freaks
> > > that  Internet Control is possible and desirable?
> > > Would it be MUCH better for all users to be encouraged to use spam
> > > filters,  if they wish?
> > > 
> > > What do people think on these and related issues? 
> > 
> > I surely prefer spam hi my inbox and delete it manually than loose mail.
> 
> That is not the intention of spamassassin at all, spamassassin is a package
> which is meant to _ONLY MARK_ spam as being such and leaving it up to the end
> user what to do with it (user header/subject/whatever filters)

That is what my isp does. I don't know if they use spanassassin or
something else, but it sends lots of mail into a junkmail mailbox and
then the end user can view what's there and delete or keep whatever he
wants.

Only problem I've seen is it filters too many non-spam messages. They
have tried to fine tune it but it still get's  a large amount of
messages from the cvs-freebsd list, in particular.

> My opinion is, that ISP's adding spam detection (and/or virus detection for
> that matter) are doing a good thing, as long as they leave the actual decision
> for deletion up to the end-user.

I agree.

--
Chip Wiegand
chip@wiegand.org
www.wiegand.org
 
> Just my $.02
> 
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