Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:52:57 -0500 From: Joshua Isom <jrisom@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Message-ID: <4C906D49.5090500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <AANLkTi=7sTm12NUdAeRrX1ZUsSveS9k7dk=hc%2BgWV9jK@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTin2sDbKKBQfEhUFNfG1fbN2LjNZ0mSLJknEBKvk@mail.gmail.com> <86zkvk2f92.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
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On 9/14/2010 4:21 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert<jules.stocks@gmail.com> writes: > > Jules> Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java > Jules> sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. > Jules> (It's called Open Source.) > > And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's > apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't > *matter* that Java is "open source". We'll have to wait until Oracle > v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's > *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in > Oracle's bed. > Google sort of shot themselves in the foot since it's like java enough that everyone not a lawyer can call it java, except it needs recompiled, and that Google ignored the patent grant by Sun since they made it a subset. There's also the issue that Google's not paying licensing fees to say it's Java capable. Google was intentionally weaseling out of a potential problem. Sun being bought got Google in trouble. Sun's patent grant could have protected Google, but Google refused it. As to the original post, Java, a "portable" "write once run anywhere" language, doesn't work on FreeBSD, a "standard" type operating system that mainly runs on "standard" hardware, when used with Xorg, a widely used "standard," as a plug in for Firefox, a major and presumably the dominant *nix web browser. Maybe the question should go to Oracle about why it doesn't work. A java applet probably works on your Symbian smart phone running on ARM.
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