Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:11:54 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GSM vs. CDMA (was: VCD (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ata atapi-cd.c)) Message-ID: <20010123111154.C16070@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <v04220808b6927dd3b3bc@[10.0.1.4]>; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:25:31AM %2B0100 References: <200101211447.f0LElEk04073@mobile.wemm.org> <KAECKEJJOLGHAFGGNIKMAELICAAA.res02jw5@gte.net> <20010121145018.A73989@citusc17.usc.edu> <20010121165422.A44505@peorth.iteration.net> <v04220821b691222656eb@[10.0.1.2]> <20010122103136.L93049@wantadilla.lemis.com> <v04220824b69129ce24ec@[10.0.1.2]> <20010123104225.A16006@wantadilla.lemis.com> <v04220808b6927dd3b3bc@[10.0.1.4]>
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On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 1:25:31 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:42 AM +1030 2001/1/23, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> I'd much prefer to have the multiple NAM capability in the phone >>> itself, and not have SIMs at all. >> >> It doesn't address the issue I've mentioned. > > I think multiple NAM capability would address most of what people > use SIMs for, and if the phone manufacturers made it easy to transfer > NAM information from one phone to another (e.g., just beam it across, > as you can share phone number information via infrared with many > Nokia phones, or transfer information from one Palm Pilot to another > via infrared), then I think that would largely solve the other > problems, too. I shudder to think of the security implications. >> How do you move your personal phone directory? > > Personal phone directories should be stored in the phone, and not > on the SIM. SIMs don't have enough space for the phone directories > (only 100 entries), My phone only has 88 entries. > and they don't allow long enough text labels per entry. Again, if > you need to transfer them, do it by infrared. That's difficult if you're transferring from a Motorola to a Nokia. > >> Ah. Assuming the people know how to do it. > > The people at the store would obviously know how to do it. They didn't when I bought my Motorola. You don't really expect mobile phone salesmen to have a brain, do you? > Phone manufacturers could make it easy to transfer information like > this, Sure they could. But in view of the fact that many don't even have a function to transfer data from SIM to phone and back, what chance do you think there is that they would actually do it? > and doing so would help address some of the crime associated with > cell phones you'd no longer have a SIM (or a NAM) frequently being > transferred from one phone to another, or the same phone frequently > swapping SIMs (or NAMs), and therefore you could use phone > fingerprinting techniques to home in on potentially suspicious > activity that could warrant further investigation. There are too many "could"s in here. I see the ability to beam this kind of info from one phone to another as more of a security issue than keeping it on a SIM. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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