Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:53:02 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> Cc: Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base Message-ID: <06D594A4-2667-4E30-9D99-7072BC7BAFBE@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EDCE9FE.6080205@orange.fr> References: <CAJ-VmonQQ-yHrDox35gpuaXXYV5j%2BUXOJH5jr93m3j=uBgbkWA@mail.gmail.com> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> <20111203.140334.74707074.sthaug@nethelp.no> <CADe0-4m-p4umXQst%2Bb8DGFcUnct9P6PQCjQd5HXc3YPmNevCSw@mail.gmail.com> <CAFHbX1%2BXj6DoT6uxzo-q4g=2gVKx7_uR5NQwYpAE99EzVFrT8A@mail.gmail.com> <441usj6oi0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <CAFHbX1%2BZeX5=k5jTkEfH0oHOoztDTAAr9pQRVvXns4ki1jshqw@mail.gmail.com> <4EDCE9FE.6080205@orange.fr>
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> wrote: > On 12/05/2011 16:28, Tom Evans wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Lowell Gilbert >> <freebsd-current-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: >>> Tom Evans<tevans.uk@googlemail.com> writes: >>>=20 >>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Max Khon<fjoe@samodelkin.net> wrote: >>>>> CVS !=3D csup. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I wonder how many people will express their sentiments about CVS when >>>>> they really mean cvsup/csup. >>>>=20 >>>> I wasn't going to jump onto this bikeshed, as CVS will not be going >>>> anywhere any time soon, I am sure. >>>>=20 >>>> I use cvs, rather than csup. I use cvsup to fetch CVS archives to >>>> /home/ncvs, and check out ports from there, as described in >>>> development(7). >>>>=20 >>>> If ports were no longer delivered via CVS, you may have had a point >>>> about removing CVS from base - but they are not. >>>=20 >>> Max Khon was the one who posted the original message in the thread. >>> That message explicitly stated that moving ports and doc away from CVS >>> was a prerequisite for removing CVS from base. As far as I've noticed, >>> no one has challenged that. >>>=20 >>> I'm trying to think of a way to fit the previous paragraph into the >>> bikeshed metaphor, but I'm coming up with nothing. >>>=20 >>=20 >> The bikeshed is discussing about how cvs will eventually be removed >> from base when there are known, unsolved, issues that block that >> happening. >>=20 >> Removing CVS will be an emotive issue, there is no need to discuss it >> until appropriate, as every one (like me) will wade in saying that "x >> is good and must stay" and "x is bad and must die", and every colour >> of bike shed in between. Just look at the number of replies to this >> topic. >>=20 >> It would be much better to concentrate on the other issues rather than >> animated discussion of something that cannot realistically happen for >> quite some time yet. >>=20 >=20 > This could have been more clear, and the bikeshed could be stopped soooner= , if > it had been written before in an authoritative form, and by those who are a= t the > start of this "unrealistic proposal". This proposal might have been better for arch for a first pass. I know there= are active efforts in progress by the community to move docs and ports over= to svn, but I'm not sure what the progress is. Thanks, -Garrett
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