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Date:      Sat, 6 May 2000 00:46:42 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@iMach.com>
To:        Scott Lambert <lambert@cswnet.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SWIPing
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005060030100.29626-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000506002831.B28791@csw.net>

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This information might be dated....  It's been a while.

On Sat, 6 May 2000, Scott Lambert wrote:

> I can't find our currently allocated space via whois.  From what I 
> understand of http://www.arin.net/regserv/initial-isp.html, I think we need
> to have our IP space attributed to us in order to smooth the application 
> process.  We have three non-contiguous address blocks at this time.

Not necessarily.  Arin Says you need to "Demonstrate efficient utilization
of previous address space allocations by providing reassignment
information via SWIP, RWHOIS, or the table format shown earlier".

Here's what I would do:

Gather all of the allocation information.  Format it in that little table
and fill the appropriate forms.   Send it in.  I'm not sure whether I
would just point them toward a URL or not.

Worst they do is say "we need this in x format".   I suspect they will
accept it in something other than SWIP/rwhois since your upstreams haven't
been Swipping correctly.

> Another interpretation of what I'm reading seems to be that I could just
> submit that info on the allocation justification form since I haven't currently
> assigned more than two class Cs to any of my customers.  Is that interpretation
> off-base?

I'm not sure.  When SWIP'ing you need to swip /29's and above.  A 29 is 8
addresses.   I would recommend you document all assigments of 8 or more
addresses.

Maybe the best thing you could do is to do all the documentation and
evertyhting and then send them a note saying "here's what I've got, do I
have to swip this or is the information ok".

Everyone I have talked to at ARIN when I have been to NANOG have been
really nice and I really think that they would be more than willing to
accomodate you where possible, especially on the documentation on a
initial allocation.

- Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ
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