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Date:      Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:40:42 -0300 (ADT)
From:      User Freebsd <freebsd@hub.org>
To:        kevlar Hodge-Podge <kevlar_t_hodgepodge@hotmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ?
Message-ID:  <20060724003805.B17979@ganymede.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-F349A8B8482E37935299FB5A4650@phx.gbl>
References:  <BAY106-F349A8B8482E37935299FB5A4650@phx.gbl>

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'k, there are at least two "clients" already in existence ... and, in=20
fact, the one that I posted the URL about even has Protocol information=20
included, so we *should* be able to avoid recreating the wheel here, only=
=20
extend it ...

I should *not* be a mandatory ... then we're as bad as other companies=20
that are into embedding 'spyware' ... it should be an opt-in sort of=20
thing, but something that is included as part of the OS, just like=20
ntpdate ... something a simple addition to /etc/rc.conf would enable,=20
*or*, even have it enabled by default, but easy to *disable* ...

As for older releases, that would fall under a verison available in ports,=
=20
that could be downloaded and run ...

There has to be conscious involvement from the community as a whole in=20
this though ...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, kevlar Hodge-Podge wrote:

> I just want to see if I understand the issue correctly.
>
>> From what it sounds like there would need to both be a server for all th=
e=20
> individual machines to connect to, and some sort of scripted client to=20
> capture info on the machine and send it to the server. When asking about=
=20
> older machines such as the RELENG_4 mail server mentioned, wouldn=92t tha=
t=20
> person have to go back and in stall this software on the machine? Also if=
=20
> this project were to work, it would almost have to be placed as a high=20
> priority install, if not almost mandatory. When and how often would the=
=20
> client contact the server? Every reboot would seem like a good time, but=
=20
> possibly more often. Would it be possible to modify a very thin email cli=
ent=20
> to work as the client, meaning the server would send an email, and when=
=20
> received it would prompt you =93would you like to send uptime/user data n=
ow?=94=20
> perhaps even being able to choose what types of data to send. I think the=
=20
> average person would be more likely to send more info if they knew exactl=
y=20
> what was being sent.
>
>
>
>> From: Darren <freebsd@bitfreak.org>
>> Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
>> To: User Freebsd <freebsd@hub.org>
>> CC: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@flat.berklix.n=
et>
>> Subject: Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ?
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:23:12 -0700
>>=20
>> User Freebsd wrote:
>>> Who *big* recognizes FreeBSD as a viable operating system, at least=20
>>> openly?
>>=20
>> When PHK asked the FreeBSD community to donate USD16,500-33000 so he cou=
ld=20
>> spend 3-6 months working regular hours on FreeBSD, Pair Networks (pair.c=
om)=20
>> donated USD20,000.
>>=20
>> I don't know if that's "recognition as viable" or not, but businesses=20
>> generally don't give $20k to anyone without a reasonable expectation of =
a=20
>> solid return on investment.
>>=20
>>> Hell, how many ppl are still running 3.x or 4.x systems, vs the newer=
=20
>>> stuff?
>>=20
>> I have a few systems running the "final" RELENG_4.  These are only doing=
 so=20
>> because they're internal file or mail servers on older hardware. They're=
=20
>> stable, problem free and have low exposure with no applicable security=
=20
>> flaws.  I can't justify depriving a business of critical IT services for=
=20
>> the several hours it will take to do the rebuild.
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