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Date:      Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:20:24 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly 
Message-ID:  <200001241820.LAA04735@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:15:21 %2B0100." <v0422080db4b2007302f4@[195.238.1.121]> 
References:  <v0422080db4b2007302f4@[195.238.1.121]>  <20000121180914.C44132@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000121173923.A44132@dragon.nuxi.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001212053300.59825-100000@picnic.mat.net> <200001220500.WAA17674@harmony.village.org> 

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In message <v0422080db4b2007302f4@[195.238.1.121]> Brad Knowles writes:
: 	Doesn't work.  There might be a very low latency but 
: low-bandwidth connection between you and one of the servers, when you 
: (and everyone else) would be better off if you instead connected to a 
: server that shows slightly higher latency but has significantly more 
: bandwidth (or less packet loss, or a less loaded server on the other 
: end, etc...).

Agreed.  The making lots of connections was a bad idea.  However, I've
rarely seen low latency and low bandwidth go together.  I've also
problems connecting accross high loss links more often.  Sure, it is a
statistical argument.

I still think that the n connections wouldn't be that expensive.  The
cost, iirc, of a connection that drops is very low.  I can certainly
see enough problems with it to encourage jdp to not implement it,
despite being the person that proposed it...

: 	IMO, there are just too many factors to be considered to apply 
: any one simplistic solution.  You need more intelligence on both 
: ends....

Agreed.  But in the abasense of intellegence at one end is causing
problems at the other end.

FWIW, I've found that *MUCH* better response times since I started
using cvsup{6,7,8} on a regular basis than I was getting from
cvsup{1,2,3}.  I'm also seeing much faster response times from 6,7,8
than cvsup-master (yes, I know I'm not supposed to use that, but there
are rare times I need to snag the latest change right away...).

I've not tried cvsup 4,5 in a while, but did have trouble connecting
to 5 while polishing my script.

Warner


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