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Date:      Tue, 5 May 1998 11:57:16 +1000
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        bjc23@hermes.cam.ac.uk
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Console
Message-ID:  <19980505115716.21150@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980504220518.584B-100000@bjc23.trin.cam.ac.uk>; from Ben Cohen on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 10:19:01PM %2B0100
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980504220518.584B-100000@bjc23.trin.cam.ac.uk>

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Ben, this is one for freebsd-questions so I'm answering there.

On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Ben Cohen wrote:

> I am using the default console driver in FreeBSD, that is, I haven't
> changed to the vt220 one in the kernel config.

I've never heard of anyone else changing either.
I tried it once, out of curiosity, but went straight back.

> However, there are a few minor glitches which I would like to remove if
> possible.  I'd prefer not to change to the vt220 driver as everything else
> seems fine under the default driver.  What are the differences between the
> two drivers and what are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
> 
> One is when telnet-ing to other machines, backspace gives ^H, rather than
> the desired effect (of deleting a character, which must then be done by
> delete).  Is there any way of avoiding this?  (Does telnet support
> emulation of another TERM type from the end it's run on rather than the
> telnetd end?)

What sort of system are you telnetting to? Several people have had
trouble with linux systems and there was a long, almost argumentative
thread on it here about 18 months ago. I and a few others got sick of
spending hours testing the "proper" solutions (some involving changes to
the remote system) and quietly solved it as follows.

If you run screen, then you'll have a VT100 that'll talk to almost
anything without becoming annoyed. Install screen from the packages if
it's not there already, then simply type 'screen' and hit enter, then
telnet or whatever as usual. You can almost pretend that screen isn't
there. Ctrl-a is special for screen so you'll have to use Ctrl-a-a until
you're desperate enough to read screen's man page :-)


> Also, there seems to be a problem when using Pine 3.96.  I have
> disable-keymenus _enabled_ to display more lines on the screen, but this
> appears to cause display problems.  For example, if I compose a message
> and then press ^C to cancel, the display moves one line up and an extra
> line is added at the bottom.  I don't know whether or not this is a
> problem with Pine or the console driver, since (a) it's fine in an xterm
> and (b) it's fine with disable-keymenus _disabled_.  Does anyone know what
> the problem could be? 


Yep, I was having trouble with my ISP's pine until I used screen. Fixed.


-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-


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