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Date:      Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:21:44 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, delphij@gmail.com, peterjeremy@acm.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, attilio@freebsd.org, kostikbel@gmail.com, nwhitehorn@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r204309 - in head/sys: amd64/amd64 amd64/isa conf i386/bios i386/cpufreq i386/i386 i386/isa i386/xen isa modules/bios/smbios modules/bios/vpd modules/cpufreq pc98/pc98 x86 x86/bios x86/...
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 04:07:32PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <4B8AF55C.6040103@freebsd.org>
>             Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > In message: <20100228195041.GA68446@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
> : >             Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@acm.org> writes:
> : > : On 2010-Feb-26 14:57:36 +0100, Attilio Rao <attilio@freebsd.org>
> : > wrote:
> : > : >For the future, however, probabilly we would need to do something
> : > like
> : > : >pc98 already does wrt i386 (i386/include/ pc98/include/
> : > amd64/include/
> : > : >just have files wrappers to the generic one under x86/include/ when
> : > : >necessary).
> : > : : Not that something like this is also critical for getting
> : > i386/amd64
> : > : cross compilation to work - one of the blocking issues is that the
> : > : correct machine/ includes are not available in cross-compilatio
> : > mode.
> : >
> : > Huh?
> : >
> : > I cross build all the time, and the machine/ includes are always
> : > right, with or without this patch.  Maybe you could explain what you
> : > mean here...
> : >
> : > The issue is that old code has
> : >
> : > #include <i386/isa.h>
> : >
> : > or whatever in it, and we need to have an i386/isa.h that's just
> : > #include <x86/isa.h>
> : >
> : > Warner
> : >  =20
> : I'm guessing what was meant is that one benefit of a merged tree (like
> : we will have with powerpc) is that you can do cc -m32 on a 64-bit host
> : to get a 32-bit binary, which is less than trivial now.
>=20
> True enough.  But we don't have anywhere close to a merged tree on
> x86, and won't for the foreseeable future.  I don't really want to see
> an include32, when all the cross building tools exist in the tree
> already (see XDEV in Makefile.inc1)...  If you are cross building, you
> really need a full cross building environment.  The -m32 hacks we have
> now are, as you describe, insufficient to the task...

-m32 is not a hack, it is a standard feature on Linux and Solaris,
allowing to build both 32 and 64 bit binaries in the host environment,
not going to cross-compilation or chroot. It is very much missing on
the FreeBSD.

Merged x86 tree is ortoghonal to this feature.

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