Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:32:49 +0100 From: Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com> To: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> Cc: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>, FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD? Message-ID: <CAHieY7Sb5Q2tvUWgQPyeDVAvZDDZr2D7pB4cCi2hBmRGSawEEg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B1FSihVeYaqDaMo16hs9CkQb2kJRi08ODUpKg7kuKML%2B9CR9w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHieY7Q2hFoNiruGof81UuomFs5Z%2B6o186d_%2BY8w7JuoQWpitg@mail.gmail.com> <CAAdA2WNFWDUdGR6rboGVBojCx9USPi1oNOFQOw%2ByYOENUek5tQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijA6w%2BKmxuNcweH5txmKL70ObL9h1OrF_JzTt-JLkVrjA@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7SFHAEQVdu75ffdpghXZzsxZqMXaKtxUFS0ZUYLM14yDA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihg2Q_cnpxFpWaPn_M8qziCqMw=o7DWjYWXGR4RKki12w@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7Tmw0aqgVSmM5A5zC6ULW4dNANXCqGv8c=kxCzFF9Dh6g@mail.gmail.com> <c849e14b-a612-dc0b-e0a0-0586386aa1fa@redbarn.org> <CA%2B1FSijet4G3nS97ZjA6jsZC=SJ5gKzxKxDyqkQUtasCi3Lw9A@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7ST9z90=oO92z21fXCXNnU6fAz3HxZ_ccBud4FtfeTsKA@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVeYaqDaMo16hs9CkQb2kJRi08ODUpKg7kuKML%2B9CR9w@mail.gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> wrote: > Alejandro,I'm not sure if you are aware that the discussion at a certain > point has broadened and deepened. I don't understand why I can't propose > an alternative to the actual jail and jail managers that you are talking > about. And no. On the L4 website there is a userland based on new versions > of Ubuntu and Debian that can be used with the microkernel offered. They > also say that FreeBSD can be compiled,too,using the same technique used to > build the Linux userland proposed. If you want to talk about containers,why > not also add the microkernel topic,that's not a container,but its working > can be compared to the microservices offered by Linux and FreeBSD if they > run with a microkernel. > > Never said you can't propose it, it just seems off-topic to this thread. Maybe start a new thread on microkernel versus X. This thread is about containers and container configuration, auto-scaling, discovery, updating and monitoring, etc. What I usually do in this case is start a new thread with a new subject and (was: xxx). That way, people interested in that branch of the discussion can continue on its own topic, and the mail archives can do a better job for later research. BTW, I think what you are saying already exists and macOS is exactly that: the FreeBSD core and the mach microkernel. Best, -- Alex [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <<a href="mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Alejandro,I'm not sure if you are aware that the discussion at a certain point <span lang="en"><span><span>has broadened and deepened. I don't understand why I can't propose an alternative to the actual jail and jail managers that you are talking about. And no. On the L4 website there is a userland based on new versions of Ubuntu and Debian that can be used with the microkernel offered. They also say that FreeBSD can be compiled,too,using the same technique used to build the Linux userland proposed. If you want to talk about containers,why not also add the microkernel topic,that's not a container,but its working can be compared to the microservices offered by Linux and FreeBSD if they run with a microkernel. </span></span></span><span></span><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Never said you can't propose it, it just seems off-topic to this thread. Maybe start a new thread on microkernel versus X. </div><div>This thread is about containers and container configuration, auto-scaling, discovery, updating and monitoring, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>What I usually do in this case is start a new thread with a new subject and (was: xxx). </div><div>That way, people interested in that branch of the discussion can continue on its own topic, and the mail archives can do a better job for later research.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, I think what you are saying already exists and macOS is exactly that: the FreeBSD core and the mach microkernel. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>Alex</div></div></div>help
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