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Date:      Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:02:08 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        scrappy@hub.org (The Hermit Hacker)
Cc:        jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: From Slashdot...
Message-ID:  <199902020102.SAA01651@usr08.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902010129030.486-100000@thelab.hub.org> from "The Hermit Hacker" at Feb 1, 99 01:40:24 am

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> > > technology needed to layer software; for a desktop, this is a
> > > System V style rc structure.  It's just not worthwhile working on
> > 
> > I don't agree that desktops fundamentally require a SysV rc structure.
> 
> 	That one kinda lost me too...half the time, I can never figure out
> *why* there are the layers that Solaris has.  I can see rc0 (halt), rc1
> (single user) and rc2 (full system), but why a special rc3 (network)?
> *shrug*


The big win is not run levels (which should be run states, anyway),
but what else it buys you.


What it buys you is the ability to replace things very easily, for
example, you can replace the SMTP server "sendmail" with "qmail" or
"vmailer" and have it look like it's really part of the system
instead of a frob you glued on with nature's original rubber cement.

For example, how would you add on something that ran the first time
to configure the X server, then thereafter just ran the X server,
and then after the X server was running, ran a copy of xdm to set
up your login?

How would you drop a component into the user creation mechanism to
not only configure the user's .cshrc or .bashrc, but als their .xinit
and their other X configuration files?

Etc..


Admittely, for KDE, you'd probably want a libvga or GGI based CORBA
object viewer, and have the desktop embed as an object there, instead
of eating the overhead of X, but you get the idea...



> 	Too many choices in ports..do you go gnome or kde, twm or fvwm95?

Dunno... who won the design contest that you are about to hold?  8-).


On the plus side, at least with a shell prompt by default, users of
FreeBSD are where DOS users were in 1982.  8-p.



					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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