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Date:      Tue, 19 Jan 2021 17:42:22 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Cc:        Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Silent hang in buildworld, was Re: Invoking -v for clang during buildworld
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On 2021-Jan-18, at 21:12, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2021-Jan-18, at 19:19, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
>> . . .
>>> FYI: I re-established my access to a RPi2B V1.1 and made
>>> it report: "maximum recommended amount (468832 pages)"
>>>=20
>>> (The figure can vary some from release to release.)
>>>=20
>>> 468832*4096 =3D=3D 1920335872 or a little over 1831 MiBytes
>>>=20
>>> For the 4096 Byte pages, that means that the following from
>>> gpart fits without complaint (size is in blocks, not pages):
>>>=20
>>> 413140992    3686400  da0p2  freebsd-swap  (1.8G)
>>>=20
>>> 3686400*512 is a little over 1.75 GiByte or 1800 MiByte. So
>>> I've left some room below 1831 MiBytes, but not a lot.
>>>=20
>>> FYI about my build experiment that is running:
>>>=20
>>> # sysctl hw.physmem
>>> hw.physmem: 979042304
>>>=20
>>> which, in recent times for armv7, I can (and did) set in
>>> /boot/loader.conf on a faster cortex-A7 SBC (that can boot
>>> the same media but has more RAM).
>>>=20
>>> So I tried a -j4 build, but with LDFLAGS.lld+=3D -Wl,--threads=3D1
>>> in use and my other particular src.conf/make.conf like content
>>> (so the builds do likely differ from yours in various ways).
>>> My build is producing a non-debug build (but with -g symbols).
>>> Somewhat after where your buildworld.log stops, my odd variant
>>> of top was reporting:
>>>=20
>>> Mem:  . . . , 753672Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 892732Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
>>> Swap: . . . , 145832Ki MaxObsUsed
>>>=20
>>> and top was also showing lots of processes as having "0B" RES
>>> in STATE "wait" or "nanslp" (so, apparently swapped out, not =
paging).
>>> ("MaxObs" is short for "maximum observed".)
>>>=20
>>> For comparison, your swapscript.log reported a maximum total of
>>> 346192 KiBytes "Used" for swap, about 98% into the log file.
>>>=20
>>> (Time goes by . . .)
>>>=20
>>> It finished with building libllvm and is part way into building
>>> libclang. This is probably well past where your hangup happened,
>>> given that your published buildworldlog file stopped with
>>> libllvm's Target/ARM/ARMMCInstLower.o . My odd top now shows:
>>>=20
>>> Mem:  . . . , 753672Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 892732Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
>>> Swap: . . . , 392328Ki MaxObsUsed
>>>=20
>>> The build continues to run. I'll let you know how it goes.
>>> . . .
>>=20
>> Just after libclang finished my odd top showed:
>>=20
>> Mem:  . . . , 753672Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 892736Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
>> Swap: . . . , 537588Ki MaxObsUsed
>>=20
>> After liblldb:
>>=20
>> Mem:  . . . , 753672Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 899276Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
>> Swap: . . . , 537588Ki MaxObsUsed
>>=20
>> Much later, after the lldb program had been built:
>>=20
>> Mem:  . . . , 765700Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 954116Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
>> Swap: . . . , 537588Ki MaxObsUsed
>>=20
>>>>> World build completed on Mon Jan 18 19:10:08 PST 2021
>>>>> World built in 72960 seconds, ncpu: 4, make -j4
>>=20
>> This was building from scratch what was already installed:
>>=20
>> # ~/fbsd-based-on-what-freebsd-main.sh=20
>> merge-base: 818390ce0ca539300dd15d7a817784f1e3f7a9b8
>> merge-base: CommitDate: 2021-01-13 21:27:44 +0000
>> 4180404713ec (HEAD -> mm-src) mm-src snapshot for mm's patched build =
in git context.
>> 818390ce0ca5 (freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD, pure-src, main) arm64: fix =
early devmap assertion
>> FreeBSD OPiP2E_RPi2v11 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT =
mm-src-c255938-g4180404713ec GENERIC-NODBG  arm armv7 1300135 1300135
>>=20
>> This suggests that you should be able to build on the RPi2B v1.1,
>> using -j4, with appropriate configuration for what and how to build.
>>=20
>>=20
>> It is now building the matching kernel, my GENERIC-NODBG style.
>=20
> Done:
>=20
>>>> Kernel build for GENERIC-NODBG completed on Mon Jan 18 20:33:26 PST =
2021
>>>> Kernel(s)  GENERIC-NODBG built in 4998 seconds, ncpu: 4, make -j4
>=20
> So, World+Kernel in somewhat under 22 hours.
>=20
> The "MaxObs*" figures were unchanged, so:
>=20
> Mem:  . . . , 765700Ki MaxObsActive, 200412Ki MaxObsWired, 954116Ki =
MaxObs(Act+Wir)
> Swap: . . . , 537588Ki MaxObsUsed
>=20
> This suggests that, for now, 800 MiByte of swap would be something
> more than 1.5 times what it actually used and 1050 MiBytes would
> be something like 2.0 times what it actually used, so leaving some
> notable margin for variations in peek usage, at least when linker
> threading is avoided.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> As for what I used to control "what and how to build" . . .
>=20
> # more =
~/sys_build_scripts.armv7-host/make_armv7_nodebug_clang_bootstrap-armv7-ho=
st.sh=20
> kldload -n filemon && \
> script =
~/sys_typescripts/typescript_make_armv7_nodebug_clang_bootstrap-armv7-host=
-$(date +%Y-%m-%d:%H:%M:%S) \
> env __MAKE_CONF=3D"/root/src.configs/make.conf" SRCCONF=3D"/dev/null" =
SRC_ENV_CONF=3D"/root/src.configs/src.conf.armv7-clang-bootstrap.armv7-hos=
t" \
> WITH_META_MODE=3Dyes \
> WORLD_FLAGS=3D"${WORLD_FLAGS} UBLDR_LOADADDR=3D0x42000000" \
> MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D"/usr/obj/armv7_clang/arm.armv7" \
> make $*
>=20
> (In my context, UBLDR_LOADADDR is ignored by anything that
> can not use the figure given. So I've no bothered to be
> more selective about having it in the armv7 builds.)
>=20
> # more ~/src.configs/make.conf
> LDFLAGS.lld+=3D -Wl,--threads=3D1
>=20
> # more ~/src.configs/src.conf.armv7-clang-bootstrap.armv7-host
> TO_TYPE=3Darmv7
> #
> KERNCONF=3DGENERIC-NODBG
> TARGET=3Darm
> .if ${.MAKE.LEVEL} =3D=3D 0
> TARGET_ARCH=3D${TO_TYPE}
> .export TARGET_ARCH
> .endif
> #
> #WITH_CROSS_COMPILER=3D
> WITH_SYSTEM_COMPILER=3D
> WITH_SYSTEM_LINKER=3D
> #
> WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=3D
> WITHOUT_BINUTILS_BOOTSTRAP=3D
> WITH_ELFTOOLCHAIN_BOOTSTRAP=3D
> #Disables avoiding bootstrap: WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALL=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_AARCH64=3D
> WITH_LLVM_TARGET_ARM=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_MIPS=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_POWERPC=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_RISCV=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_X86=3D
> WITH_CLANG=3D
> WITH_CLANG_IS_CC=3D
> WITH_CLANG_FULL=3D
> WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=3D
> WITH_LLD=3D
> WITH_LLD_IS_LD=3D
> WITHOUT_BINUTILS=3D
> #
> WITH_LLDB=3D
> #
> WITH_BOOT=3D
> WITHOUT_LIB32=3D
> #
> #
> WITHOUT_WERROR=3D
> #WERROR=3D
> MALLOC_PRODUCTION=3D
> WITH_MALLOC_PRODUCTION=3D
> WITHOUT_ASSERT_DEBUG=3D
> WITHOUT_LLVM_ASSERTIONS=3D
> #
> # Avoid stripping but do not control host -g status as well:
> DEBUG_FLAGS+=3D
> #
> WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD=3D
> WITH_DEBUG_FILES=3D
> #
> # Use of the .clang 's here avoids
> # interfering with other C<?>FLAGS
> # usage, such as ?=3D usage.
> CFLAGS.clang+=3D -mcpu=3Dcortex-a7
> CXXFLAGS.clang+=3D -mcpu=3Dcortex-a7
> CPPFLAGS.clang+=3D -mcpu=3Dcortex-a7
>=20
> (I do not claim that you would want WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD .
> I just happen to have been experimenting with it. You might
> not want to be explicit about the cpu to target. You might
> not want WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS .)
>=20
> # more /usr/fbsd/mm-src/sys/arm/conf/GENERIC-NODBG
> include "GENERIC"
>=20
> ident   GENERIC-NODBG
>=20
> makeoptions     DEBUG=3D-g                # Build kernel with gdb(1) =
debug symbols
>=20
> options         AUDIT                   # Not enabled by default in =
armv7/v6 kernels
>                                        # Enabled here to allow kyua =
test runs to
>                                        # possibly report auditing =
works.
>=20
> options         ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER
>=20
> options         KDB                     # Enable kernel debugger =
support
>=20
> # For minimum debugger support (stable branch) use:
> options         KDB_TRACE               # Print a stack trace for a =
panic
> options         DDB                     # Enable the kernel debugger
>=20
> # Extra stuff:
> #options        VERBOSE_SYSINIT=3D0       # Enable verbose sysinit =
messages
> #options        BOOTVERBOSE=3D1
> #options        BOOTHOWTO=3DRB_VERBOSE
> options         ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER   # Enter debugger on keyboard =
escape sequence
> options         KLD_DEBUG
> #options        KTR
> #options        KTR_MASK=3DKTR_TRAP
> ##options       KTR_CPUMASK=3D0xF
> #options        KTR_VERBOSE
>=20
> # Disable any extra checking for. . .
> nooptions       INVARIANTS              # Enable calls of extra sanity =
checking
> nooptions       INVARIANT_SUPPORT       # Extra sanity checks of =
internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
> nooptions       WITNESS                 # Enable checks to detect =
deadlocks and cycles
> nooptions       WITNESS_SKIPSPIN        # Don't run witness on =
spinlocks for speed
> nooptions       DEADLKRES               # Enable the deadlock resolver
> nooptions       MALLOC_DEBUG_MAXZONES   # Separate malloc(9) zones
> nooptions       DIAGNOSTIC
> nooptions       BUF_TRACKING
> nooptions       FULL_BUF_TRACKING
> nooptions       USB_DEBUG
> nooptions       USB_REQ_DEBUG
> nooptions       USB_VERBOSE
>=20
> The /boot/loader.conf file and the /etc/sysctl.conf files
> both contained:
>=20
> vm.pageout_oom_seq=3D120
> vm.pfault_oom_attempts=3D-1
>=20
> (The hw.physmem=3D979042304 in /boot/loader.conf was very-special,
> to better approximate your environment. I also controlled the
> cpu frequency used via a line in /etc/sysctl.conf . I do not
> bother with such non-default frequency usage [or related settings]
> for RPi*'s with the pre-RPi4B style power connections but do
> control the frequency for the OPi+2E.)

The following had been left implicit about my context and
how it manages memory space use.

I'll note that I do not use tmpfs or other such memory based
file system techniques that could compete for RAM/swap. What
is in use for the only file system involved is just the
root file system:

# df -m
Filesystem            1M-blocks  Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/gpt/BPIM3root       195378 63940 115808    36%    /
devfs                         0     0      0   100%    /dev

It is a USB SSD. The swap partition is also on that same
media. (The BPIM3 based name dates back to before the
BPI-M3 power connection failed and I switched to the
OPi+2E.)

I'll note that I've started a new from-scratch build without
LDFLAGS.lld+=3D -Wl,--threads=3D1 . So at some point I'll have
information about how much of a difference (+/-) in swap
usage it actually made for with vs. without, if any.

=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)




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