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Date:      Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:45:05 -0800 (PST)
From:      William Woods <freebsd@cybcon.com>
To:        "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@iMach.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>, Coleman Kane <cokane@one.net>
Subject:   Re: FW: DSL natd rules....
Message-ID:  <XFMail.000130194505.freebsd@cybcon.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001301957200.18812-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>

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OK, 

what does this mean for me?

On 31-Jan-00 Forrest W. Christian wrote:
>> In my experiences and knowledge, the phone company's network does a lot of
>> the
>> NAT and everything. Somewhere along the line your final output IP is bridged
>> with the ISP's IP to give to you. The NAT and routing is typically internal
>> in
>> the phone company. 
> 
> Just to put my $0.02 in here.
> 
>>From experience with USWest DSL from both the customer and ISP end, I can
> guarantee that the phone company does very little to the ATM cells which
> go between the 675 and our equipment (ATM interface on a Cisco router).
> 
> If we set the connection up PPP the client has to set it up PPP, if we set
> it up bridging, so does the client.   We can (and do) at times push out a
> whole subnet bridged to the client end.   
> 
> I have yet to see anything which indicates that the telco does anything to
> the packets except take them in on the DSLAM and push them out our ATM
> port.
> 
> - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ
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> iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604      http://www.imach.com
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Date: 30-Jan-00
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