Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:18:32 +0100 From: Sergio Carlavilla <carlavilla@freebsd.org> To: ykla <yklaxds@gmail.com> Cc: Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience Message-ID: <CAFwocyMq%2Bb87sEnyVF5=o3CqPHZP-_CdKVV8oz1FHVrFrHPAbQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2BPGaYDAZFFWCJoUKgH36WOHeSGnvXXvWMg%2BCrBH=LS8-zgD6w@mail.gmail.com> References: <202301300254.30U2sm0k061914@dell.no.berklix.net> <97020cad-f913-2985-2093-e4c23bf671e3@antonovs.family> <86357sxsly.fsf@cthulhu.stephaner.labo.int> <CA%2BPGaYD4nRtodOxZWdd11f1eXrP_EXxYRGLY4f3PpvNw-ViyrA@mail.gmail.com> <Y9ec/fbWPodGjyoP@home.opsec.eu> <CA%2BPGaYDAZFFWCJoUKgH36WOHeSGnvXXvWMg%2BCrBH=LS8-zgD6w@mail.gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] El lun., 30 ene. 2023 18:06, ykla <yklaxds@gmail.com> escribió: > Hi, > > The documentation project on reviews.freebsd.org is also very inactive. > For example, it's been almost 3 months since I submitted my revision - > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322. After I submitted it, it was neither > reviewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to changes in the FreeBSD > documentation, some of my changes conflict with the current documentation > and are difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend some time going over > it again and again, but if no one accepts it, it is pointless. Maybe I > shouldn't make such extensive changes to the documentation.Can you advise > me on how I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot. > > ykla > > Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> 于2023年1月30日周一 18:33写道： > >> Hello, >> >> > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seemed >> to >> > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except >> for >> > the automated bug reports from the bots. >> > I have not had any replies to my several posts either. >> >> > So can the admins tell how many people actually >> > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc, >> >> The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@). >> >> > or is this just a place to report bugs and people >> > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that >> almost >> > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation? >> >> From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of >> workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so >> not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer. >> I had the same problem... >> >> I see doc-stuff happen mostly on reviews.freebsd.org. (speaking >> as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person >> as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling. >> >> -- >> pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? >> . > > Hi, No, your patch is not pointless. I know that your patch was submitted one month ago, but we're in the review of the complete handbook. I'll try to use your patch in some parts of the review. Sorry if you think that your work is not take in consideration, this is not our idea. My public apologies, as I said, I'll try to use your patch in some places. Of course I'll mention you in the commit in these places. About huge patches, please, create minor patches and put me as a reviewer. And again, thanks for your work. > [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El lun., 30 ene. 2023 18:06, ykla <<a href="mailto:yklaxds@gmail.com">yklaxds@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi, </div><div><br></div><div>The documentation project on <a href="http://reviews.freebsd.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">reviews.freebsd.org</a> is also very inactive. For example, it's been almost 3 months since I submitted my revision - <a href="https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322</a>. After I submitted it, it was neither reviewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to changes in the FreeBSD documentation, some of my changes conflict with the current documentation and are difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend some time going over it again and again, but if no one accepts it, it is pointless. Maybe I shouldn't make such extensive changes to the documentation.Can you advise me on how I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot.<br></div><div><br></div><div>ykla</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Kurt Jaeger <<a href="mailto:pi@freebsd.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pi@freebsd.org</a>> 于2023年1月30日周一 18:33写道：<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <br> > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seemed to<br> > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except for<br> > the automated bug reports from the bots.<br> > I have not had any replies to my several posts either.<br> <br> > So can the admins tell how many people actually<br> > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc,<br> <br> The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@).<br> <br> > or is this just a place to report bugs and people<br> > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that almost<br> > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation?<br> <br> >From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of<br> workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so<br> not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer.<br> I had the same problem...<br> <br> I see doc-stuff happen mostly on <a href="http://reviews.freebsd.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">reviews.freebsd.org</a>. (speaking<br> as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person<br> as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling.<br> <br> -- <br> <a href="mailto:pi@opsec.eu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pi@opsec.eu</a> +49 171 3101372 Now what ?<br> .</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No, your patch is not pointless.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know that your patch was submitted one month ago, but we're in the review of the complete handbook.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'll try to use your patch in some parts of the review.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry if you think that your work is not take in consideration, this is not our idea.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My public apologies, as I said, I'll try to use your patch in some places. Of course I'll mention you in the commit in these places.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">About huge patches, please, create minor patches and put me as a reviewer.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And again, thanks for your work.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div></div></div>help
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