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Date:      Sun, 30 May 2004 15:03:06 +0300
From:      Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
To:        Andre Guibert de Bruet <andy@siliconlandmark.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.conf 
Message-ID:  <20040530120314.BB9CF43D31@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Andre Guibert de Bruet <andy@siliconlandmark.com>  <20040529111209.B16672@alpha.siliconlandmark.com> 

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> =

> On Sat, 29 May 2004, Patrick Tracanelli wrote:
> =

> > I remember it has been discussed before, but the terms were a little =
bit
> > different, so tell me, isn't it appropriate rc.subr to suck the
> > configuration parameters from /usr/local/etc/rc.conf instead  of
> > /etc/rc.conf when running startupscripts for third party applications=

> > (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/)?
> >
> > To keep the organization principles, I dislike putting those
> > instructions into /etc/rc.conf when it should be read by 3rd party ap=
ps,
> > since I consider /etc/ to be used by the base system. Altho' old styl=
e
> > .sh scripts are still usefull under ${local_startup} dirs, ports
> > maintainers tend to write new style rc scripts that uses rc.subr to r=
ead
> > the user defined options (usually via /etc/rc.conf).
> >
> > Easy solution would be
> >
> > rc_conf_files=3D"/etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /usr/local/etc/rc.co=
nf"
> >
> > into /etc/rc.conf, but it seems to be ignored by rc.subr when it's no=
t
> > at /etc/defaults/rc.conf;
> >
> > Some 3rd party startupscripts read rc.subr from /usr/local/etc/, so i=
f
> > it suck only ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.conf options, would force users to
> > configure it in the right place, but it would break POLA and since so=
me
> > scripts read /etc/rc.subr instead if ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.subr, would als=
o
> > break some ports (very very bad idea).
> >
> > So, to allow ports startupscript to be configured from
> > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf but also prevent people who are today used to =
mix
> > everything in /etc/rc.conf from having their app. not starting, defin=
ing
> >
> > rc_conf_files=3D"/etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /usr/local/etc/rc.co=
nf"
> >
> > into /etc/defaults/rc.conf would just do it, nothing would break and
> > port's pkg-message could start trying to educate users to populate
> > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf for ports startup options and leaving
> > /etc/rc.conf only for the base system...
> =

> Having multiple locations for system startup parameters (A l=E0 Windows=
) is
> a maintenance headache even when there's a logical method to the
> madness. I'm saying this as the admin of 6 racks packed with 1U and 2U
> machines. Be gentle... ;)
> =


and some of us (i hope more than one), have /usr/local shared among many.=


danny





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