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Date:      Sat, 12 Aug 2023 13:15:18 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Starting the bhyve journey
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Do you plan to fix the problem by using shortcuts like the wrappers ? I
know,the temptation is high....

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 1:23=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As I had suspected,the first tutorial wants you learn vm-bhyve and iohyv=
e
>> (the wrapper for zfs and bhyve),as he says :
>>
>> *I=E2=80=99m not saying this is the way to go*. Really, really, If you a=
re
>> planning on setting things up from scratch to have a nice FreeBSD virtua=
l
>> machines server, look into all the cool projects out there like vm-bhyve
>> <https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve>; or iohyve
>> <https://github.com/pr1ntf/iohyve>; (to name two of them, I=E2=80=99m sur=
e there
>> are more).
>>
>>
>> That's not good. If you want to set up from scratch you should not focus
>> too much on studying the vm-bhyve or iohyve,it makes things even more
>> complicated because these are tools that change themself during the time=
 so
>> you should keep updated with more knowledge.
>>
>> Take a look at this tutorial :
>>
>>
>> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-linux-vm-on-freebsd-using-b=
hyve-and-zfs/
>>
> TBH, I had used this and even had two VMs running (FreeBSD and Debian).
> But I had issues wrapping my head around the tapX networks and also
> automatically starting the VMs.
> That's why I headed towards using this wrapper.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
> "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-)
> [How to ask smart questions:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do you plan to fix the problem by using shortcuts like the=
 wrappers ? I know,the temptation is high....<br></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 1:=
07=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com"=
>odhiambo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 12, 20=
23 at 1:23=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>As I =
had suspected,the first tutorial wants you learn vm-bhyve and iohyve (the w=
rapper for zfs and bhyve),as he says : <br></div><div><br></div><div><p><b>=
I=E2=80=99m not saying this is the way to go</b>. Really, really, If you ar=
e
planning on setting things up from scratch to have a nice FreeBSD virtual
machines server, look into all the cool projects out there like <a href=3D"=
https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve" target=3D"_blank">vm-bhyve</a>
or <a href=3D"https://github.com/pr1ntf/iohyve" target=3D"_blank">iohyve</a=
> (to name two of them, I=E2=80=99m sure there are more).</p><p><br></p><p>=
That&#39;s not good. If you want to set up from scratch you should not focu=
s too much on studying the vm-bhyve or iohyve,it makes things even more com=
plicated because these are tools that change themself during the time so yo=
u should keep updated with more knowledge. <br></p><p></p><p>Take a look at=
 this tutorial :</p><p></p><p><a href=3D"https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-=
to-install-linux-vm-on-freebsd-using-bhyve-and-zfs/" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-linux-vm-on-freebsd-using-bhyve-an=
d-zfs/</a></p></div></div></blockquote><div></div></div><div>TBH, I had use=
d this and even had two VMs running (FreeBSD and Debian).</div><div>But I h=
ad issues wrapping my head around the tapX networks and also automatically =
starting the VMs.</div><div>That&#39;s why I headed towards using this wrap=
per.</div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_p=
refix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Best regards,<br>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>Nairob=
i,KE<br>+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223<br>&quot;<span style=3D"font-size=
:12.8px">Oh, the cruft.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">&quot;,=C2=
=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">egrep -v &#39;^$|^.*#&#39;=C2=A0=
</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(34,34,34);color:rgb(238,238,238)=
;font-family:&quot;Lucida Console&quot;,Consolas,&quot;Courier New&quot;,mo=
nospace;font-size:13.6px">=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0:-)</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x">[How to ask smart questions:=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px=
"><a href=3D"http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html</a>]</span></div=
></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_pre=
fix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Mario.<br></d=
iv>

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