Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1909111123160.59741@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1909102030500.59741@fledge.watson.org> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:52:44 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> writes: >> >>> On a fresh install of FreeBSD 12.0 amd64, I installed something via pkg, >>> and then used "man <something>", which complained that I need to install >>> groff. I did that - and the manpage could be read. I'm just mentioning >>> this because I've never seen this before... >> >> Historically, man(1) was essentially "nroff -man" under the covers. > > Older FreeBSD versions came with /usr/bin/groff - similar problem > as with info, except that _some_ manpages were available without > installing 3rd party software (probably already processed and > rendered, and in that form part of the default installation). > > I've also been using groff to turn man entries into PDF files. :-) Now that's clever. I'll bet you can read and modify /etc/termcap :) >From another email in this thread: > It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They > are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation > file is still part of the OS, and installed along with the tools comprising > the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at > least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no > longer part of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) My thought on texinfo was that this was a bit different than when nslookup, dig, and bind were removed from the base. To the level I use drill it has the same syntax as dig, nslookup functions can [mostly??] be done with host. Bind is, well, bind. Here we remove the tool needed to read a set of files from the base but leave the files. I suspect there will be a lot of this when sendmail is removed from the base.
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