Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:03:34 +0100 From: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org> To: Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap Message-ID: <CADLo83-Hq4Rtj2yQzc0bNBmj3yxzrXjk1n91fqPWa20mF6Y3cA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <CADLo83_gQR0GRzOidt7OWdhB42KwAPwU7fmohfK_55gTXtoi1Q@mail.gmail.com> <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com>
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On 17 September 2011 22:42, Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
> Chris Rees wrote:
>>
>> On 17 Sep 2011 17:25, "Fbsd8" <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/15/11 14:57, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>>>>>> Out of the 9 USA maps only "us.iso.acc.kbd" worked somewhat.
>>>>>>> The keyboard 9 key block above the arrow keys don't function.
>>>>>>> Issuing the "man cmd_name" command doe's display the man page,
>>>>>>> but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work.
>>>>>>> Also when using the "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down
>>>>>>> keys } don't work. This does not happen in any of the previous
>>
>> releases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further more, localization of the keyboard should not be forced on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> user during the install process. This BSDinstall option should be
>>>>>>> disabled or removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can press "Cancel" there, which will cancel keymap selection and
>>
>> keep the default. The utility being invoked is just kbdmap(1), and any
>> changes to it need to go there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .. maybe name that button "skip" then?
>>>>>
>>>> The button is provided by kbdmap, as is the entire screen. We could add
>>>
>>> an "installer" mode to kbdmap that names it skip instead of cancel, of
>>> course. I'm traveling for another 2 weeks and won't have time to do
>>> >that,
>>
>> however.
>>>>
>>>> -Nathan
>>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Its good to be talking directly with the bsdinstall author.
>>>
>>> Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not
>>> address
>>
>> the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard bsdinstall
>> user.
>> I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the kbdmap command or for
>> that matter even knew it existed.
>>
>> Wait, are you suggesting that everyone on Earth can "make do" with the
>> "standard" keyboard layout until they learn rc.conf syntax?
>>
>> I would strongly object if localisation of the keyboard were not "forced
>> on"
>> the user; we don't all use pc105-us, and the ability to use the keyboard
>> properly early on is kinda helpful.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
> You would help yourself a great deal if you read the complete post before
> jumping in. The rest of the post (ie: the part you neglected to include in
> your post) clearly describes what I am suggesting.
>
I had read the rest of your post, and found it rather difficult to
follow. The fact remains that every other installer I have ever used
gives the user the choice of keymap, so I don't really understand your
problem.
If you're not suggesting removing localisation from bsdinstall, then
please accept my apologies.
Chris
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