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Date:      Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:47:51 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Long <fbsd1@sstec.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: named 8.3.2-T1B vulnerable?
Message-ID:  <3D1F6E77.2C842E5B@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <5.1.0.14.2.20020629142257.0221e050@mail.sstec.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020629173206.021c88e0@mail.sstec.com>

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John Long wrote:

> Hello Doug, thanks for the very quick response, 

Glad to help.

> Yes I run 2 primary dns servers

> I would rather overwrite the base however is there any downside to this,
> now or in the future with the next build world... ?

Downside to it? I hope not, I've done it at Yahoo! for almost a year
now. :) You should also put 'NO_BIND=	true' in your /etc/make.conf to
avoid spamming bind on your next buildworld. I left that part out of my
previous message, sorry. 

> With 8.3.2-T1B being so icky, should this subject not be mentioned on the
> stable
> list and is it not a security problem/potential root hole ( I am sure black
> hats are
> very busy right now) therefore should it not go into RELENG_4_6 as a -p2?

Well, let's be clear. The exploitable parts of the problem are in libc
(fixed already) and in libbind from the BIND sources. The latter is
seldom, if ever used. I'll leave it up to the SO team to decide, I have
no objection to doing the import.

However, the main ickiness of that code is performance wise. In fixing
some old bugs in 8.3.1, they introduced a few "quirks" that were
subsequently fixed before 8.3.2-release. I had some servers testing
8.3.2-prior-to-release code, and they all fell over in various
interesting ways. The bugs were fixed before I got around to reporting
them though. 

My personal belief is that people who are actually running name servers
should be keeping up with such things, and therefore my saying, "Hey,
the code in the base isn't the latest, and isn't recommended, so you
should use the port to upgrade" really SHOULD be redundant.... but in
the real world, you're probably right. 
 
> Finally thanks to all the people/coders involved with open source and
> FreeBSD :-)

You're welcome. :)  Thanks for the kind words... it's actually quite
nice to hear once in a while.

Doug

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