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Date:      Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:06:18 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>, Doug Barton <DougB@DougBarton.net>, "current @ freebsd . org" <current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Kernel preemption, yes or no? (was: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost)
Message-ID:  <20010417180618.Z976@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010418093212.A80877@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:32:12AM %2B0930
References:  <200104160259.f3G2xqs06321@aslan.scsiguy.com> <200104160616.f3G6GI973782@earth.backplane.com> <20010417011957.W976@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010418093212.A80877@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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* Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> [010417 17:02] wrote:
> On Tuesday, 17 April 2001 at  1:19:57 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > * Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com> [010415 23:16] wrote:
> >>
> >>                               For example, all this work on a preemptive
> >>     kernel is just insane.  Our entire kernel is built on the concept of
> >>     not being preemptable except by interrupts.  We virtually guarentee
> >>     years of instability and bugs leaking out of the woodwork by trying to
> >>     make it preemptable, and the performance gain we get for that pain
> >>     is going to be zilch.  Nada.  Nothing.
> >
> > Pre-emption is mearly a side effect of a mutex'd kernel.
> >
> > The actual gains are in terms of parallel execution internally.
> > Meaning if we happen to copyin() a 4 meg buffer we can allow more
> > than one process to be completing some sort of work inside the
> > kernel other than spinning on the giant lock.
> 
> *sigh* Couldn't you have changed the subject line when discussing
> something of this importance?

I wasn't discussing, I was explaining.

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-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
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