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Date:      Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:20:50 +0000
From:      "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        Allan Jude <freebsd@allanjude.com>
Cc:        Johan Broman <johan@bridgenet.se>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>, "<freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Current" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI
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On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Allan Jude wrote:

> On 2013-10-21 13:14, Teske, Devin wrote:
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 2013-10-21 12:19, Teske, Devin wrote:
>>>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On 2013-10-21 12:04, Teske, Devin wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Allan Jude wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 2013-10-21 11:45, Johan Broman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed answer. I've patched zfsboot and rebuilt the
>>>>>>>> release. I now get an error message that ada2 can't be used, which=
 is
>>>>>>>> correct. Good stuff! :)
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> ( I've recreated the test environment using a KVM guest with four =
SATA
>>>>>>>> drives instead of the server I was using. I makes it easier to test
>>>>>>>> stuff. )
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Here's the screenshot:
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dhttp://212.181.212.14=
6/bsdinstall/Screenshot_2013-10-21.png&k=3D%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D=
%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DB6jLX5vSxIfvyks3HH55lYWtfhR=
BpGZ3nVA65M%2FgmXM%3D%0A&s=3Df6fc4ec7c9d8b9486e897156dac5af7c3f64e3fae746dc=
f6c66ad91564a8ce99
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Maybe one should be unable to select drives that are part of a gra=
id
>>>>>>>> in the first place? Or is that out-of-scope for bsdinstall at this
>>>>>>>> point? (As I guess that requires too many changes/new lines)
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On 19/10/13 22:20, Teske, Devin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Johan Broman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I recreated the graid mirror on ada2 and ada3 and reran the
>>>>>>>>>> installation. I'm unable to scroll the msgbox using PgDn or arrow
>>>>>>>>>> keys. There is no indication that the action failed and I'm retu=
rned
>>>>>>>>>> to the ZFS setup screen if I hit OK.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have screen shots (taken with my phone) of the msgbox and "ps
>>>>>>>>>> auxwww" output. Let me know what kind of debug info you would li=
ke.
>>>>>>>>>> I've put the screen shots here:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dhttp://212.181.212.=
146/bsdinstall&k=3D%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns=
9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DB6jLX5vSxIfvyks3HH55lYWtfhRBpGZ3nVA65M%2FgmXM%3D%0A=
&s=3D6322000e13ed155bda748698c4a0d54c9de7c29f5566affe202d7c5a29917cd1
>>>>>>>>> I've added a patch to fix debugging in the zfsboot script...
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dhttp://druidbsd.cvs.=
sf.net/viewvc/druidbsd/bsdinstall_zfs/&k=3D%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D=
%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DB6jLX5vSxIfvyks3HH55lYWtfhR=
BpGZ3nVA65M%2FgmXM%3D%0A&s=3D1dc96a8b5450d27fe8210b361c9ed736ccd448f78df6aa=
be170bb80e31bca6d9
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Feedback welcome.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Johan,...
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Can you see if the patch sheds some better light as to what's fai=
ling?
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> The patch won't fix the problem, but it should give us an accurat=
e error
>>>>>>>>> message so that we can learn what precisely is returning an error
>>>>>>>>> status.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I do notice that Devin's manually prefixing the error message with =
the
>>>>>>> tool name, is partially redundancy when the tool does it it self, b=
ut we
>>>>>>> can't always be sure it will do that.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> The next patchset will fix that.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I'm dropping the tool name from the msgbox contents and putting it in
>>>>>> the title (e.g., '"Error: gpart") that way... even if the tool spits=
 out its own
>>>>>> name (or not), we'll know what exactly what was going on by looking
>>>>>> at the title.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> the graid thing is rather hard to detect, especially when it is a
>>>>>>> faulted array that doesn't even appear in graid status etc.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I believe the idea behind the script is that whatever you tell it to=
 use will
>>>>>> be destroyed.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Allan, maybe perhaps we could add some code that attempts to dis-
>>>>>> assemble a graid to make the disk usable?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Johan, what would you be more apt to expect? That it killed your gra=
id
>>>>>> or that it gave an error? (/me thinks what the recourse to the error=
 might
>>>>>> entail -- going to partedit?)
>>>>> Your recourse would be switching to the shell (control+alt+f4) and
>>>>> destroying the graid.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I am a little hesitant to go destroying graids unprompted. If we had =
the
>>>>> geom.confxml parsing, we might be able to detect it and ask the user
>>>>> what to do
>>>>>=20
>>>> Well, my concern with going and asking about each/every configuration
>>>> before we clear it...
>>>>=20
>>>> Hasn't the user already answered a "Last Chance!" dialog giving the go-
>>>> ahead to nuke any/all data *and* configurations on a drive?
>>> I guess that makes sense, We offer the dialog to allow the user to
>>> investigate their disk in detail so they can be sure they picked the
>>> correct ones.
>>>=20
>>> the graid thing is the biggest gotcha because it picks up metadata
>>> written by the motherboard raid system, so you can have a graid
>>> configuration even if you have never booted freebsd before.
>>>=20
>> Hmmm... so what does one do in *that* situation?
>>=20
>> Go into the motherboard BIOS and disable on-board RAID features for
>> the controller providing the disks-in-question?
> You can destroy the metadata with the graid delete command. I've only
> encountered once instance where 'graid status' didn't show any devices,
> but graid was blocking zfs from using the device until the graid was
> destroyed (the graid part was only discovered after generating an image
> out of the geom.confdot sysctl)
>=20

Would you know where precisely to add the "graid delete" command if, say,
we wanted to see if we could address Johan's issue?
--=20
Devin

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