Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:34:13 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin <rik@inse.ru> To: Andrey Chernov <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav <des@des.no>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, kris@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/strfile strfile.c Message-ID: <489F0A75.5010100@localhost.inse.ru> In-Reply-To: <20080808193109.GA70187@nagual.pp.ru> References: <489B797F.7020101@FreeBSD.org> <20080807230532.GA42775@nagual.pp.ru> <489B81AC.8090508@FreeBSD.org> <20080808.002150.-1037138460.imp@bsdimp.com> <20080808063208.GA51624@nagual.pp.ru> <86myjnerqr.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080808193109.GA70187@nagual.pp.ru>
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Hi, Does any one has any technical reason why this change is wrong, or makes smth worse? If this change makes smth better, even a bit, and does not ruin smth, why it does not have a chance for existence? IMHO. rik Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:16:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > >>> 1) PRNG is not crypto. >>> >> Stop spewing nonsense. >> > > Do you have enough education to determene what is nonsense and what is > not here? For example I have master degree in mathematics. > > >> PRNG and crypto are inseparable. >> > > Well separable areas. Various PRNGs can be used in or choosed by crypto. > But no crypto in PRNG itself. > > >> In addition, >> as you very well know, this PRNG is actually the keystream generator for >> the RC4 stream cipher. >> > > Yes, I know. And what? Crypto uses math intensively, not PRNGs only, > hashes etc. > > To confirm my words, OpenBSD uses ar4random() almost everywhere in the > tree, especially after realizing "modulo bias" bug, and use it as "plain" > PRNG even in simplest non-crypto areas. > >
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