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Date:      Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:24:15 -0500
From:      Jonathan Chen <jon@spock.org>
To:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, webmaster@wmptl.com, bwoods2@uswest.net, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Thinkpads
Message-ID:  <20001130002415.B50250@spock.org>
In-Reply-To: <200011291829.eATITWJ23422@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:29:32AM -0800
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20001129110537.0498b6c0@localhost> <200011291829.eATITWJ23422@ptavv.es.net>

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On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:29:32AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> The only real annoyance I have with the 600E is the sound. It
> seemingly randomly probes as pcm0 or pcm1. If it probes as pcm0, it
> works fine. If it probes as pcm1, it's dead. I hate computers with
> non-deterministic behavior!

The 600E has a sound setup that apparently looks like both a PCI and
ISA-PnP device, and is just plain weird.  To get it working consistantly
as pcm0, simply apply the following patch and remove "device csa" from your
kernel config.

Index: sys/conf/files
===================================================================
RCS file: /export/ncvs/src/sys/conf/files,v
retrieving revision 1.340.2.38
diff -u -r1.340.2.38 files
--- sys/conf/files	2000/10/31 23:16:07	1.340.2.38
+++ sys/conf/files	2000/11/30 05:10:55
@@ -1090,8 +1090,7 @@
 dev/sound/isa/sbc.c	optional sbc isa
 #dev/sound/pci/aureal.c	optional pcm pci
 dev/sound/pci/csa.c	optional csa pci
-dev/sound/pci/csa.c	optional pcm pci
-dev/sound/pci/csapcm.c	optional pcm pci
+dev/sound/pci/csapcm.c	optional csa pcm pci
 dev/sound/pci/ds1.c	optional pcm pci
 dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.c	optional pcm pci
 dev/sound/pci/es137x.c	optional pcm pci

> Other then that, I have always preferred ThinkPads because of the
> excellent keyboard (I'm very finicky about that), the TrackPoint (if I
> don't plug in an external mouse) and the 3-button "mouse". Fairly
> light, too.

Ditto, I shopped around a while back for ANY laptop that had 1024x768
screen, a good keyboard, and a 3-button trackpoint (I hate those
touchpads) that's also lightweight.  These are basically the requirements
that has to be met before I even consider a laptop... The only candidate I
found was the 600E.  (more recently I think I've seen Dells that fit my
requirement, but I won't be replacing my 600E for a while yet)

> I started drooling over the new ThinkPads, but I won't touch them with
> a 10 foot pole as long as this problem persists.

The newer thinkpads are indeed very nice, but it wouldn't be a show stopper
for me if I were considering buying one... after all, several workarounds
are available.

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