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Date:      Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:11:12 +0100
From:      Rui Paulo <rpaulo@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch>
Cc:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pntr@gmail.com>, Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, =?iso-8859-1?B?IkF1culsaWVuIE3pcuki?= <aurelien.mere@amc-os.com>
Subject:   Re: Common interface for sensors/health monitoring
Message-ID:  <20090823171112.GB2390@mac-mini.lan>
In-Reply-To: <843B14C2-D6D0-4910-B1B4-C7A8CB37635D@msys.ch>
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 06:38:12PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
> Everyone should have the right to come back with a subject, if work
> is put into it.  Or is the stanza that once there has been a heated
> discussion about a topic, there is no possibility to come back to
> it, maybe making it better a seccond time?  And no, I have no plans
> to do so... I am just a bit astonished about the attitude...

I think what Alexander was trying to say was that, given the heated discussion
last time, people are now reluctant to restart another discussion. From what I
remember, it was very hard to understand why such a large number of messages was
being created for such a small detail.

Topics, such as these, pose a high risk of making your FreeBSD developer
experience more painful than it should be. And since I believe a lot of people
here like to work on FreeBSD, sometimes these types of discussions are avoided
for a long time just because the developer(s) doesn't(don't) want to make their
FreeBSD development experience any more painful. I believe that if we keep
insisting on the same bikesheds for a long time, developers will defintely go
away.

So, there's no ``stanza'' or whatever, just human nature.

Regardless of what I just said, the topic keeps coming back and that's a clear
sign that a framework should be developed and, possibly, in a way that appeals
to both parties.

-- 
Rui Paulo



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