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Date:      Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:25:12 -0800
From:      "Li, Qing" <qing.li@bluecoat.com>
To:        "Gerald Pfeifer" <gerald@pfeifer.com>, <erwin@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Tijl Coosemans <tijl@ulyssis.org>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: HEADSUP: arp-v2 has been committed
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I have revived the RTF_LLINFO definition in route.h.
A new kernel option "COMPAT_ROUTE_FLAGS" is introduced, all
for providing binary compatibility for existing ports.
I could have made the RTF_LLINFO bit only applicable with _KERNEL.

Without rehashing the discussion we all had on this topic on=20
both -current@ and -net@ MLs last month, moving forward, all=20
arp-v2 affected ports should continue to be modified and updated=20
with the understanding the RTF_LLINFO, RTF_WASCLONED etc. flags are=20
obsolete. There are no support for the semantics of these
flag bits in the kernel, other than returning these bits to
userland for the existing ports.=20

Please sync-up to the following revision:

	SVN rev 187094 on 2009-01-12 11:24:32Z by qingli

Thanks,

-- Qing


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Pfeifer [mailto:gerald@pfeifer.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:27 AM
> To: Li, Qing
> Cc: Tijl Coosemans; Qing Li; freebsd-net@freebsd.org; freebsd-
> current@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: HEADSUP: arp-v2 has been committed
>=20
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Li, Qing wrote:
> > I don't think we can provide binary compatibility without putting
> > back RTF_LLINFO exactly as it was. My preference is to continue down
> > the new path without RTF_LLINFO.
>=20
> So, you are saying that applications built on FreeBSD 7 or earlier
> that use RTF_LLINFO will no longer work properly on FreeBSD 8 after
> your change?
>=20
> Ignoring everything else, that would be a killer and the one reason
> to definitely change the current situation.  Otherwise, ISVs will need
> two builds, one for FreeBSD 7 and earlier and one for FreeBSD 8, and
> believe me, that is bad, bad, bad.  Or rather: unlikely.  (GNU/Linux
> distributions do provide this level of compatibility.)
>=20
> > We still have some time before the 8.0 release. It's straightforward
> > for me to retain some of the RTF_LLINFO support in the new kernel if
> > and when the situation becomes necessary.
>=20
> Sounds like that is the case?
>=20
> > Since the affected ports now have the conditional code around
> > RTF_LLINFO, the updates would allow these ports to compile in
> > both -current and in the previous releases.
>=20
> emulators/wine still is broken, and upstream Wine has not accepted
> the patch yet.  I believe one reason likely is the above, and the
> fact that this may break commercial builds of Wine.
>=20
> How are you going to address this?
>=20
> Gerald
> --
> Gerald (Jerry) Pfeifer   gerald@pfeifer.com
> http://www.pfeifer.com/gerald/



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