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Date:      Thu, 23 May 2002 12:58:47 -0500
From:      "McKenna, Lee" <lmckenna@lodgenet.com>
To:        "'Christophe Prevotaux'" <c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: UDLR and DVB-S
Message-ID:  <3EA88113DE92D211807300805FA7994209149E09@chaplin.lodgenet.com>

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I have some interest in UDLR, but alas I am no programmer either.  UDCast
appears to have the first commercially available UDLR implementation, and if
I am not mistaken, I believe they have it running on FreeBSD.  I also think
Emmanuel Duros wrote FreeBSD drivers for a few DVB-S cards while at Inria.

I might be able to lend out some DVB-S hardware if someone wants to
seriously tackle writing a driver for FreeBSD and commits it to open
source...

Later,
--Lee


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christophe Prevotaux [mailto:c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:10 AM
> To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
> Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: UDLR
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have once asked if someone would be interested in implementing UDLR
> and DVMRP and include it in FreeBSD ? 
> 
> Julian Elischer mentioned it would be fairly trivial to implement as a
> node in Netgraph. However I am no programmer.
> 
> I was wondering if no one had interest in UDLR ? I understand 
> that today's
> broadband access do not require these unidirectional links, 
> but I can't
> believe no one needs this, since they are also plenty of 
> other use for it
> apart from the fact it can be used for unidirectional link (one way
> internet access (uplink is done thru a modem or a different kind of
> internet access link))
> 
> If someone is interested in develloping this, there is some 
> code source
> available (it is FreeBSD Release 2.2.x. based and has not 
> been maintained
> for a long time). 
> 
> Receivers boards
> ================
> DVB-S PCI adapter drivers are also needed for devices from 
> any of these
> manufacturers
> 
> http://www.coship.com/English/products/cdvbany2010s.htm
> http://www.broadlogic.com 
> http://www.pentamedia.com
> http://www.twinhan.com.tw
> 
> who might be ready to lend or give out hardware in order to help
> devellopement of these drivers.
> 
> Uplink boards
> =============
> These boards must be able to:
> 
> - Transmit IP packet over DVB/MPEG 2 transport stream 
> 
> - Variable maximum data rate determined by external clock generator,
>   transparent for reception cards 
> 
> - ISA Bus 
> 
> As of today I have not found (yet) transmit (uplink) boards 
> manufacturer
> 
> As for uplink boards the devellopement of such drivers are to 
> be a problem
> since it is very unlikely that anyone as a personal space 
> segment on a DVB
> capable satellite and the necessary hardware
> 
> However if anyone has ideas on how to build a test cheap unit 
> for uplink
> and downlink testing locally , please let me know. 
> 
> Also since Bill Fenner is both part of the UDLR IETF BOARD 
> and member of
> the Mbone FreeBSD Team, we have a great source of internal 
> knowledge in
> this protocol etc...(In the event that Bill agrees to help 
> (of course))
> 
> http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/
> 
> I have contacted the author of the RFC for UDLR Emmanuel 
> Duros but as of
> now it is to no avail since he has not answered my email (it has been
> several months)
> 
> Here are some pointers to some available literature and source code:
> 
> What is UDLR (Short introduction)
> =================================
> http://www.actconferences.com/sif2002/abstract/udlr.htm
> 
> RFCs , Drafts and Charter
> =========================
> http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/udlr-charter.html
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-pppoe-00.txt
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-multicast-
issues-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-security-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-dvmrp-conf-02.txt

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3077.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1075.txt

Source code 
===========
http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/eduros/manu.html

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