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Date:      Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:28:11 +0100
From:      Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
To:        Alan Clegg <alan@clegg.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, stef@memberwebs.com, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, secteam@freebsd.org, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.net>, Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org>, Andrew Storms <astorms@ncircle.com>
Subject:   Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: ports/dns/bind9 Makefile distinfo	ports/dns/bind94 Makefile distinfo ports/dns/bind95 Makefile	distinfo]
Message-ID:  <48778A1B.4060504@infracaninophile.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <487782C5.7050703@clegg.com>
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Alan Clegg wrote:
> Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 08:54:48AM -0600, Brett Glass wrote:

>>> Is there a way to restrict the ports which BIND selects -- perhaps
>>> at the expense of a small amount of entropy -- such that it doesn't
>>> try to use UDP ports which are administratively blocked (e.g. ports
>>> used by worms, or insecure Microsoft network utilities)? We don't 
>>> dare turn these port blocks off, or naive users will fall prey to 
>>> security holes in Microsoft products. But if BIND doesn't know to
>>> work around them, lookups will occasionally (and infuriatingly!)
>>> fail.

>> query-source has an argument called "port" which will do what you want.
>> That option *only* affects UDP queries, however; TCP queries are always
>> random.
 
> While query-source allows you to lock down to a single port, you DO NOT
> WANT TO DO THIS -- if you do, you will be vulnerable to the very thing
> that the patch made you immune (well, safer) from.
> 
> What Brett (and others) need to do is risk the waters with the new beta
> code (9.4.3b2 and 9.5.1b1) which includes additional "fine-grained"
> control for the UDP ports to be used.
> 
> Please, PLEASE, do not introduce "query-source port XX" into your
> configurations.

Probably what Brett is looking for are the avoid-v4-udp-ports  and avoid-v6-udp-ports options -- these just contain lists of UDP ports
to avoid as the source of any DNS traffic.  Details are available here
(for bind95) http://www.isc.org/sw/bind/arm95/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#options
but it's the same for all 9.x versions of BIND.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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