Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:56:33 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au> To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, terry@lambert.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, jdp@polstra.com, nate@sneezy.sri.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GAS question Message-ID: <199603190226.MAA27673@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <199603182023.NAA22102@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Mar 18, 96 01:23:54 pm
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Terry Lambert stands accused of saying:
>
> > > Now I need to complain that it's emacs...
> >
> > This legitimises me complaining that VC is a Windows tool, that it's a
> > Microsoft product, and that your socks are mismatched.
>
> The only valid corrolary in that list is "is a Windows tool". I didn't
> complain that it was GPL'ed ("an FSF product") and I didn't complain
> about an unrelated issue ("mismatched socks").
Actually, the complaints are all irrelevant, yours and mine both. The
objects are _tools_. Personal bias aside, both work reasonably well.
> Bitching about the user interface is a legitimate gripe, considering
> *ALL* UNIX boxes come with vi and *NOT* all UNIX boxes come with Emacs.
Not all Windows boxes come with VC either. (Fortunately 8)
> How about "not having to learn a user interface"? Windows and Motif
> applications which are written in accordance with the style guides
> have the common attribute that once you learn one, you've learned
> them all (unless someone does something *stupid* and "enhances" the
> interface away from the style guide to make the product "better").
This is pedantry. You can use the same argument to insist that all APIs
should be the same. Or that hammers should have the same 'user interface'
that screwdrivers do.
You've just chosen somewhere else to draw your version of the grey line.
It's a popular position for it; Apple made millions out of it, but then
twenty billion flies can't be wrong either.
> > > I personally *really* like "BattleMap", an IDE (Interactive Developement
> > > Environment). It doesn't run on FreeBSD, unfortunately.
> >
> > Why not? What can we do to rectify this horrific situation? 8)
>
> Port FreeBSD to SPARC, and make it run SunOS/Solaris binaries.
An answer to the first would have been enough; "proprietary software". Yuck.
> Terry Lambert
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