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Date:      Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:19:41 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Moving Things [was Re: List of things to move from main tree]
Message-ID:  <3A92991D.F4669C23@softweyr.com>
References:  <200102201058.DAA14109@usr05.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> 
> > This whole thing -- splitting the OS up into a bunch of small
> > independently-selectable packages -- sounds exactly like the way
> > Debian works, except I expect FreeBSD would have more emphasis on
> > using a revision control system for at least the core components
> > rather than a ports-like collection of random patches.
> 
> An important point in configuration management, which SCO and
> Solaris, et. al. have addressed, but which has so far been
> missing from this discussion is the "binary upgrade" scenario;
> I think one of the primary design goals has to be, if not to
> support it, at least to not preclude it being supported later.
> 
> A nice-to-have would be the ability to "save" the state of a
> machine, as in "as this machine is currently configured".  This
> probably would exclude configuration data, and be limited to
> just what was installed.  A centralized configuration store
> would let you include configuration data, which would be
> potentially impossible otherwise.  I expect that you would want
> to not include IP address or machine name or other per machine
> static data, but you might include "boots to a KDE login screen"
> or "uses DHCP to get an IP address".  I can't see that being
> possible, given arbitrary configurations files in arbitrary
> locations all over the firmament.

We came to that same conclusion at DoBox, and finally settled on a 
technology for our "Registry" (for lack of a better description).  We
stuff PostgreSQL in every box.  ;^)

The price and the license is right, and it integrates rather nicely with
web UI tools.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/

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