Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>, dg@root.com, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: User block device access Message-ID: <199909191900.MAA73792@apollo.backplane.com> References: <17169.937766010@critter.freebsd.dk>
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:> the superiority of the raw device without taking into account the purpose :> of using the buffered device in the first place -- i.e. to be able to :> take advantage of its caching capabilities. : :And what I'm having a hard time finding is apps that does that. : :All the device using apps I know spend most of chapter one saying :"ALWAYS USE RAW DEVICES" over and over and over. : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member Your 'All' is a pretty narrow definition of 'all'. Many applications implement caching of some sort, even if it's only caching of read-data. The only restriction a database would have, for example, would be to require write-through rather then write-behind. The data caching would still be extremely useful. In fact, a memory-mappable buffered block device with write-through would be much, much more useful to a database then a character device, and I think it's only a two line patch to make mmap() work, and probably a four line patch to implement write-through. It would be virtually unbeatable... use of mmap() removes the extra copy overhead, read-caching takes the burden off the application, optional write-through gives you instant feedback *AND* reblocking. I would even be willing to make the write-through the default. That would give us an extremely powerful and useful buffered block device implementation. -Matt Matthew Dillon <dillon@backplane.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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