Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 01:10:42 -0600 From: Tim <tim@sleepy.wojomedia.com> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Message-ID: <20020326071042.GA5337@sleepy.wojomedia.com> In-Reply-To: <p0510151db8c5bd39d590@[10.0.1.8]> References: <p05101509b8c47b17d088@[10.0.1.8]> <20020325015236.A97552@futuresouth.com> <p0510150eb8c48ba6b1f4@[10.0.1.8]> <3C9EFED0.DB176CB8@mindspring.com> <20020325115207.GA22032@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <3C9F1A16.207EA23E@mindspring.com> <20020325140022.GA23251@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <p05101519b8c51042d9db@[10.0.1.8]> <20020325231612.GA30696@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <p0510151db8c5bd39d590@[10.0.1.8]>
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:55:38AM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:16 PM -0600 2002/03/25, Tim wrote: > > > Errr, you are going to have to lock/order the update of the > > named.conf (or its included) file at some point. > > Yes, but this could be using fine-grained locking on the sending > side, as opposed to serializing all updates through a single person. > You could even batch them, so that updates happen in the database > asynchronously with their being pushed out to the servers. Nothing in tinydns prevents you from doing that. Many people generate data.cdb directly from the database. All my discussion is with respective to Terry's points, which is how to propagate from master to slave in a consistent manner. > > So what? What DNS protocol allows you to kick/restart the secondary > > bind server to tell it new zones are available? > > I believe that the protocol is called "NOTIFY". Unless I am missing something, that only helps with zone CHANGES. It does not help with new zones. I understand there are out-of-band mechanisms to deal with with zone creations from master -> secondary. That was essentially why Terry gave detailed explainations in his previous email. If you want further discussion, feel free to take it to the djbdns mailing list. There are many people there much more knowledge than me. I have a lot of respect for Terry's points but frankly, you have shown very little real argument (you could still be right - you just made some very silly points). Like for example, it occurred to me that dnscache/tinydns doesn't even use tcpserver so I don't know what your previous rant was about. Neither does either use fork(). Most of your arguments are the same by people who argue for Microsoft (i.e. ease of configuration, established support - never mind that tinydns is but a year or so old, etc). That said, I have no loyalty towards djbdns, qmail, or any other piece of software for that matter. I use what suits my needs at the moment. Bind works better for you - great. Just don't spread misinformation about other pieces of software because you have disdain for the author. Once again, if you narrow down your 18 point list to about 8, you'll be taken more seriously. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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