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Date:      Sat, 5 May 2001 14:23:59 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Kris Kirby" <kris@catonic.net>
Cc:        "Wai Chan" <waichan@hpu.edu>, <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: outgoing traffic load balancing with multiple ISP
Message-ID:  <006901c0d5a9$b2e4c3e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105050700430.26130-100000@spaz.huntsvilleal.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:04 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Wai Chan; freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: RE: outgoing traffic load balancing with multiple ISP
>
>
>On Fri, 4 May 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> Wai's biggest problem is that ISP#1 sends all traffic to
>> ISP#2.  While Wai can set up so that both routes are equal
>> cost to the NOC that ISP#2 is connected to, in effect
>> he is competing with his own traffic on the link from ISP#2
>> to the rest of the world.
>
>Ah, static routes. How unfortunate.
>

Yes, this sort of thing always gets my goat because at the ISP I work at we
spend a lot of money and effort running redundant links and it always pisses
me off that some of our competitors out there have no redundancy at all yet
are telling people that their service is just as good (or better) as ours.
Recently I
did a competitve study of DSL prviders here and out of the 25 or so ISP's
listing themselves as DSL providers, only NINE had their own AS number and
were advertising multiple paths to themselves.

Our redundancy is at the point where we have more of a problem detecting
that
links are actually down and notifying the admin!  Once we went for 6
hours with a feed down because the What's Up box was pinging the wrong IP
number,
and no customers or administrators noticed it because the network didn't
seem
any slower or different than it normally is.  Now that's redundancy for you.
Contrast that to a local ISP here that was down for a WEEK due to some dumb
admistrative goof as a result of a merger, theirs made the front page of the
local
daily if you can believe it.  Yet they claim a larger customer base than we
do.
There just ain't any justice out there.  Sigh.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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