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Date:      Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:12:58 -0800
From:      Sam Leffler <sam@freebsd.org>
To:        Gavin Atkinson <gavin@freebsd.org>
Cc:        usb@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP usb2/usb4bsd to become default in GENERIC
Message-ID:  <498F2EBA.9000106@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <1234119008.7997.32.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk>
References:  <20090206045349.GQ78804@elvis.mu.org>	<498C013B.4000405@FreeBSD.org> <20090208052110.GY78804@elvis.mu.org> <1234119008.7997.32.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk>

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Gavin Atkinson wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 21:21 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>   
>> * Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> [090206 01:50] wrote:
>>     
>>> Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>>       
>>>>      - Update GENERIC to use usb2 device names.
>>>>         
>>> Wasn't there a plan to rename usb2 devices to match oldusb names (where 
>>> applicable) once oldusb had been killed? I don't see it in the list.
>>>       
>> Probably, although coming from the other side as a user I find it pretty
>> annoying when there's somewhat gratuitous changes to the kernel config
>> files that I don't really care about that cause my kernels to break.
>>     
>
> The vast majority of our users do not run -CURRENT, and so haven't had
> to change config files yet.
>
> One day, those users will be migrating from 7.x to 8.x, and shouldn't
> need to change their kernel config for a "somewhat gratuitous change".
>
> Your argument only works if people had already had to change their
> config files once (usb -> usb2), and that by renaming these back they
> will have to change their kernel config back.  Only people running
> -CURRENT will end up having to do this twice (or indeed at all) if the
> rename takes place, end users will not need to do it at all.
>
>   
>> Basically, calling it usb2 isn't as bad as renaming it back to "usb"
>> as it's less disruptive in my book.
>>     
>
> Again, I disagree.
>   

I agree with your comments.  And, as I've said previously, any name 
changes from usb1 will require _all_ documentation (manual pages, 
handbook, etc) to change; not a good idea.

    Sam




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