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Date:      Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:55:15 -0500
From:      Jon Myers <myersjw@alfredstate.edu>
To:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   DEC network card...(WAS: general slowness and Q's..)
Message-ID:  <5.0.2.1.2.20030213223846.01b35dd8@mail2.alfredstate.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20030214011529.GJ20351@cicely9.cicely.de>
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I've tried setting the de500 (-AA model) for 100 meg, as well as setting 
the switch its connected to at 100 meg, and it would not link up.  Various 
settings, cables, half/full duplex, etc.. eventually I just put a 3c905 in 
there, and went along my merry way.  Also, I tossed in a de500 (-PC model) 
and it found it as dc0 (as opposed to de0).  but shortly after the probe, 
and detecting it, there was a kernel panic, and reboot (just after giving 
me the mac addr) this was before  putting in the 3com.

as far as the SCSI deal, I'll get back with another post on that, when I 
can get at the box again.  Also, if you look at another post, by Sergey at: 
http://news.gw.com/freebsd.alpha/6807 it looks like he had the same issue 
in his dmesg (altho, he was complaining of init not starting (due to a 
local service not starting, and pausing the machine before init))


At 02:15 AM 2/14/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 04:23:31PM -0500, Jon Myers wrote:
> > Note.. this does indeed only have ONE HD drive installed.  There is also a
> > scsi cdrom drive, also I don't see it in the probes.  But had the same
> > result when I removed that drive anyway (I installed via floppies and FTP).
>
>As Wilko already wrote: It looks like an SCSI ID conflict.
>Especially it seems that your HDD uses the same ID as your host adapter.
>
> > Another interesting thing is de0, the DEC Ethernet de500 card MADE FOR
> > ALPHA comes up with underruns, and refuses to work at 100meg, only 10 meg.
>
>Underruns are normal for these cards, the driver tunes dynamicaly and
>just tells you about it - it's not an error.
>You can see something similar on other card types too, e.g. xl and dc.
>
>About 100M - these cards can't do N-WAY autosensing.
>Either the driver is guessing your tranfermode or you have to set it
>explicitly.
>It's hard to say what went wrong in your case without detailed info.
>
>--
>B.Walter              COSMO-Project         http://www.cosmo-project.de
>ticso@cicely.de         Usergroup           info@cosmo-project.de


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