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Date:      Tue, 15 Mar 2016 04:33:33 +0100
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160315033333.GH11339@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <56E7134F.9070106@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:38:55PM -0700, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 3/14/16 12:29 PM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:
> > Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> writes:
> >> Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> >>> https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/blob/master/scripts/pkg_tree.sh
> >> Can you publish it as a port? I know there is one written in Perl but
> >> I like your sh without dependencies.
> >=20
> > It's not very useful, in my opinion.  The relationships between packages
> > form a directed acyclic graph, not a tree, so pkg_tree.sh will either
> > show too little (without -r) or far, far too much (with -r).  If you
> > want to visualize the package graph, you can feed the output of 'pkg
> > query "%n %dn"' into something like graphviz.  For other tasks, you are
> > better off learning how to use 'pkg query' and possibly creating your
> > own aliases or scripts.  It's not that difficult; feel free to ask for
> > help.
> >=20
> > (Just for kicks, I tried running 'pkg_tree.sh -rn' on my desktop, which
> > has 934 packages installed.  It's been running for ten minutes and has
> > printed over 90,000 lines, with no end in sight.)
> >=20
>=20
> Yeah that's why I never included it by default. It can be interesting
> sometimes but often is too noisy. I didn't want to encourage its use by
> default vs pkg info or pkg query.

Also note that if people likes graph we can now generate graphviz output fr=
om
the solver using pkg -o DOT_FILE=3D"/something.dot" <upgrade|install|delete=
> then
play with graphviz.

Best regards,
Bapt

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