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Date:      Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:05:17 -0500 (EST)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RFC: /dev/console -> /var/log/messages idea/patch 
Message-ID:  <200011230305.WAA50246@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2210.974933052@critter>
References:  <200011222239.RAA48717@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <2210.974933052@critter>

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<<On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:44:12 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> said:

> In message <200011222239.RAA48717@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman write
>> They can try, but by the time they do the console has already been
>> revoke()d, so they no longer have access to the real console.

> I don't know what you consider "the real console", but opening
> "/dev/console" and barfing on it works all the time.

We are talking at cross purposes.

I am talking about programs which don't properly detach from their
controlling terminal (the console, in this case) and then periodically
warble things to standard error.  Luckily, such programs never seem to
bother to check the error returns.

-GAWollman



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