Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 23:29:49 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu> To: Stephen Liu <satimis@yahoo.com> Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First time running CTM Message-ID: <40C3EF3D.1040900@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040607040901.1784.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040607040901.1784.qmail@web40307.mail.yahoo.com>
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I think your problems are with portupgrade, or how you use the ports, rather than with using cvsup/ctm. I don't think that using ctm will help you at all, and I think that you should resolve your issues using cvsup. I think that your best bet is to post to the freebsd-questions mailing list, explaining what doesn't work. You are unlikely to get help from a more specialized lists such as ctm-users. The reason is that it is somewhat apparent from your questions that you are not so knowledgable about the basics of FreeBSD, and people are going to be unwilling to spend a lot of time to help you, because, well, it will be a lot of time. But the freebsd-questions list is designed to help people like you who are getting started. Best, Stephen Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Tks for your advice. > > >>Did anyone else reply? > > > NO, you are the first (the only) folk replying my > posting on all lists, currently subscribed by me. > Neither I can get much technical information of CTM on > google search except some Russian sites. > Unfortunately I could not read Russian. > > >>CTM is a good way to keep up to date, but cvsup is >>also a good way. I think >>that the documentation for ctm is not that great, >>and so you may find cvsup an >>easier way to go. I would use ctm only if you have >>some specific reason to do >>so (i.e. you are behind a corperate firewall). > > > Last week, on a workstation (not behine a corporate > firewall, as super-root (su -) I ran; > > # cvsup -g /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile > # cvsup -g /usr/local/etc/cvsup/stable-supfile > > and then > > # portupgrade -aRrv0 > > not very successful, some feature missing after root, > portupgrade utilities not working, kde-3.1.4 not > upgraded to kde-3.2.2, partition of /var overflown, > etc. Fortunately I fixed most problems except > kde-3.2.2 upgrade which I will do its installation > from binary later and some minor problem. > > I am prepared to have another round re-running 'cvsup' > and 'portupgrade' Because I am running FreeBSD 5.2 on > a slow PC, AMD-K6-5.2. Therefore I am planning to run > > # portupgrade -aRrv0 -x kde > > then > > # pkg_delete kde\* arts\* qt\* quanta\* kdevelop\* > (to erase existing kde-3.1.4) > > and then to reinstall kde-3.2.2 from binary > # setenv PACKAGESITE > http://people.fruitsalad.org/lofi/packages/5.2.1-RELEASE/Latest/ > # pkg_add -r kde > > (I started posting the above to mailing lists/forum > for further advice/comment) > > A folk on freebsd.forum, IIRC, suggested me using CTM, > mentioning that he has tried it successfully. He will > abandon cvsup forever. That is the whole story. But > he has not replied my posting to clarify my questions. > > - snip - > > >>>Hereinunder are my questions >>>1) >>>Using CTM for the First Time >>>I haven't had a -RELEASE CD. Where can I download >> >>the >> >>>'starter delta'. My PC is connected to 3MB >> >>broadband. >> >>The docs are somewhat deceptive on this issue. You >>don't want to use anything >>off a release CD. You can get all the starter >>deltas from most any ftp site, >>e.g. ftp.vmunix.org - they are in with all the >>regular deltas. > > > Noted with thanks > > - snip - > > >>>Can I establish 'Empty' to /usr/ where has plenty >>>space??? >> >>You can put it anywhere you like. > > > Noted. > > >>># ctm -v -v >>>/path/to/starter_delta/download/folder/src-xxx.* >>>(why it needs double '-v' here ???) >> >>You don't need any '-v'. > > > Noted with thanks > > >>>After step 2) above, now I have the lastest port >>>tree. >>> I then subscribe a CTM distribution list. What >>>shall >>>I do next? >> >>See if cvsup is better for your needs. If not, try >>to figure out what you can - >>we can try to answer questions as they come up. > > > Noted with thanks. If time allows I am willing to > learn an alternative of upgrading. I read on google > search a new site for CTM is now being built working > on a German server. > > >>>Would the ports tree automatically updated >>>whenever I >>>start the PC? >> >>No. > > > Oh, I misunderstood that it works on the principle as > 'ntp' synchronizing the clock. > > Tks. > > B.R. > Stephen Liu > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk > >
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