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Date:      Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:00:37 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        dyson@iquest.net
Cc:        wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   System V init (was: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD?)
Message-ID:  <19981130080037.A423@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811291429.JAA01054@y.dyson.net>; from John S. Dyson on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:29:58AM -0500
References:  <19981129183019.H456@freebie.lemis.com> <199811291429.JAA01054@y.dyson.net>

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On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at  9:29:58 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote:
> Greg Lehey said:
>>
>> OK.  The *idea* of run modes seems to make sense, and I wouldn't
>> change the System V method on a system which had it, but how useful is
>> it really?  Consider:
>>
>> Run state	Meaning		BSD init
>> 0		halt		halt
>> 1		single user	shutdown
>> 2		multi user,	Whaat??
>> 		no network
>> 3		multiuser	(multiuser; stop single user)
>> 4		undefined
>> 		(most systems)	can't see any equivalent on PCs
>> 5		PROM monitor
>> 6		reboot		reboot
>>
>> Where's the important difference?
>
> Add additional packages, and see that BSD init ends up more
> and more inadequate.

I still don't see why.  We have a method to run application startup
and shutdown scripts already.  Could you be more specific?

>>> SysV init has an established set of standards for usage of
>>> startup/shutdown files.  It doesn't solve ALL problems, but moves
>>> forward, other than just staying idle.
>>
>> Sure, but as I said, that's all a question of scripts.
>
> Also, it is all a question of C-code,

Where?

> but a framework enables better organization.  However SYSV-init is
> implemented, vendors do use it.

I suppose there's one point there.  But the only difference for
installing under FreeBSD would be the name of the startup file.

Greg
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