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Date:      Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:28:22 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Doug Russell <drussell@saturn-tech.com>
To:        John Milford <jwm@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Cc:        FreeBSD-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, root@meeko.eecs.Berkeley.EDU
Subject:   Re: AMD K6
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970714001922.18807A-100000@hobbes.saturn-tech.com>
In-Reply-To: <199707132239.PAA28695@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>

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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, John Milford wrote:

> 	I ma currently test driving an AMD K6/200 in a
> FIC PA-2005 motherboard and I am getting a lot of crashes.
> (actually it looks like a reset, no cores, no console messages
> just a spontaneous reboot). I am wondering if anyone has seen
> the K6 do similar things.  The vendor says "The K6 does support
> UNIX", but I am inclined to believe that he doesn't have a clue.
> I am thinking I will return the K6 and get a Cyrix M2, any thoughts?

Hmm...  I've run a both a K6 166 and 200 and never had a problem.  Running
rather strenuous tests (including a couple of make worlds) neither ever
crashed a single time during weeks of uptime.  I don't currently have one
on the network at the house, here, but several are running on other
locations which I somewhat oversee.  Nobody has reported a problem back up
to me yet.  I would tend to check for adequate cooling (although I
remember being impressed with how cool the 166 chip ran as opposed to the
Cyrix (non L version) in the machine I'm on right now.), and especially
the voltages.  I honestly can't tell you what I ran them at, as I don't
have either machine here.  I do believe, that in the ASUS TX board (a
TX97-E) with the 166, I was runing it at the higher of the two voltages
closest to AMD's spec.  The board didn't have the EXACT voltage that AMD
specified, and it RAN with either the next lower, or the next higher, and
I'm quite sure I was running it at the higher.  It is at least worth
looking into.

I'm likely going to be swapping a K6 into my little rotation here at the
house very soon, and I have yet to have any problems, although I currently
do not use one in any of my main machines here.

I've actually always had good luck with AMD chips.  Hobbes (a 5x86-133
running at 150 Mhz) is up to 120 days uptime.  :)

Later......						<Doug>




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