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Date:      Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:12:20 -0800
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Andrew Rybchenko <arybchik@FreeBSD.org>, gnn@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r341327 - head/sys/dev/sfxge
Message-ID:  <fe51e92f-6214-589d-e9dc-1e3568265fc7@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <0A8EBFBB-37DA-439F-A8D3-099A13128AD9@freebsd.org>
References:  <201811300711.wAU7B5R6084752@repo.freebsd.org> <d60f54ae-a1a6-bad5-73f0-c898d0579089@FreeBSD.org> <7545b110-4930-d49f-f99f-7ec17db7e7a7@oktetlabs.ru> <be19ca93-6703-e329-b070-f338ec264f0b@FreeBSD.org> <0A8EBFBB-37DA-439F-A8D3-099A13128AD9@freebsd.org>

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On 11/30/18 11:01 AM, Philip Paeps wrote:
> On 2018-11-30 19:36:27 (+0100), John Baldwin wrote:
>> On 11/30/18 10:15 AM, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
>>> On 30.11.2018 20:30, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>> On 11/29/18 11:11 PM, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
>>>>> Author: arybchik
>>>>> Date: Fri Nov 30 07:11:05 2018
>>>>> New Revision: 341327
>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/341327
>>>>>
>>>>> Log:
>>>>>    sfxge(4): rollback last seen VLAN TCI if Tx packet is dropped
>>>>>
>>>>>    Early processing of a packet on transmit may change last seen
>>>>>    VLAN TCI in the queue context. If such a packet is eventually
>>>>>    dropped, last seen VLAN TCI must be set to its previous value.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Submitted by:   Ivan Malov <Ivan.Malov at oktetlabs.ru>
>>>>>    Sponsored by:   Solarflare Communications, Inc.
>>>>>    MFC after:      1 week
>>>>>    Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18288
>>>>
>>>> Just as a general comment.  There's no point in creating a review in 
>>>> phabricator if you aren't going to get any actual review feedback 
>>>> via the tool.  That just adds noise.  (I've spotchecked a few of the 
>>>> recent sfxge commits and they all seem to create a review that then 
>>>> gets committed a few hours later without any feedback, etc.)
>>>
>>> All these changesets is the result of development in Solarflare.  All 
>>> these changesets were reviewed internally and in fact many have later 
>>> fixes which are simply squashed in.
>>>
>>> We have discussed it with George (gnn@) some time ago and he asked to 
>>> submit reviews anyway and wait at least a day or two before commit. 
>>> Yes in this particular case these 2 hundreds of patches is the result 
>>> of 2 years of development. So, I'd waited some time and started to 
>>> commit in blocks.
>>>
>>> This time I've not included np@ and bz@ in reviewers since I've not 
>>> got reviewed before and it would be too much spam.
>>>
>>> We have discussed it with Philip (philip@) shortly. As I understand 
>>> he has no time now to review it.
>>>
>>> Basically I'm ready to follow any sensible policy. I don't think it 
>>> makes to wait forever. If there are any volunteers I'll be happy to 
>>> include more people in reviewers.
>>
>> I don't think you have to wait forever, and if the changes were 
>> reviewed internally that counts for review, I just don't want to add 
>> noise and clutter to phabricator and commit logs.
> 
> I think it makes sense to have Phabricator reviews for the 
> FreeBSD-specific parts of sfxge(4).
> 
> The internal review at Solarflare is definitely good enough to commit 
> without waiting for review -- certainly on the parts of the driver that 
> are generated from the common source -- but there is some value to 
> having the FreeBSD-specific bits sit in Phabricator for a few days.
> 
> The storm of commits in the last week is exceptional because it 
> represents two years of changes.  With hindsight, just bulk-committing 
> those to Subversion would have been a better idea.
> 
> In the future though, and when in the steady state of commits trickling 
> in rather than flooding in, I still appreciate the reviews in 
> Phabricator.  Particularly for the FreeBSD-specific parts of the driver.

That's fine as long as you are going to do actual reviews.  The only point
I raised was about putting things in phab but not really using phab.  Let's
use it when it makes sense, but let's avoid things that look like dummy
reviews to satisfy a checkbox.

-- 
John Baldwin

                                                                            



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