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Date:      Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:15:41 -0700
From:      David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To:        <paul@freebsd-services.com>, Technical Information <tech_info@threespace.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: helping victims of terror
Message-ID:  <20010927151542.AAA26017@shell.webmaster.com@whenever>
In-Reply-To: <8090000.1001510193@lobster.originative.co.uk>

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:16:33 +0100, Paul Richards wrote:

>> The biggest problem I have with Communism is the desire to destroy all
>>capitalist markets, even when it meant using military force.  If
>>Communists had historically been content with maintaining the social  order
>>of their countries, it might not have registered as such a threat  on the
>>radar of other countries.  As it was however, it was such a threat  that
>>the U.S. decided to counter with its own agenda.

>You should differentiate between communism and the USSR. Communism is an
>idealogy and it is not one that demands that military force be used to
>overthrow capitalist markets.

	Any ideology that includes the notion that private property is inherently
coercive can be used to justify the use of force against those who practice
it.

>The idealogies don't always support the actions that some individuals
>perform.

	Often only because of other errors in the ideology. For example, if some
ideology claimed that having blonde hair was a crime comparable to murder,
you can blame that ideology for justifying the killing or imprisoning of
blonde people, even if that ideology also includes complete pacifism and the
notion that only god can punish murders. The comission of a crime comparable
to murder can reasonably justify the use of retaliatory lethal force, and
thus so can the ideology even if it includes other unreasonable elements.

	You can't have two errors that cancel each other out and weigh that to the
credit of the ideology. It takes full moral responsibility for every error in
it individually.

	DS



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