Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:08:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Lynch <lynch@bsdunix.net> To: spork <spork@super-g.com> Cc: Francisco Reyes <freyes@inch.com>, FreeBSd Chat list <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Of SDSL, speed and bad ISPs Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906280805170.430-100000@bytor.rush.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.00.9906270022020.23119-100000@super-g.inch.com>
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Being right oputside of NJ, is it actually possible to get a DSL line outside of the areas Bell Atlantic says its not possible, or is it the combination of bad copper/distance from the CO? I know next to nothing about DSL (I'm a systems administrator, not a network engineer Jim!) and I need some kind of faster access here ....and well the best I've been able to get is a dedicated 56k modem for a couple hundred a month *sigh* -Pat ___________________________________________________________________________ Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net lynch@bsdunix.net Systems Administrator Rush Networking ___________________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, spork wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > > After almost 3 months, about 2 longer than expected, I finally got a > > working SDSL line. > > For New York City, that's pretty good. Of course a nice local ISP like > the one you use (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) would have given you a better > estimate of how long you would have to wait... > > > Getting it installed involved a lot of calling the ISP and just > > constantly finding a person higher up in the food chain to call. This > > line is at one of my clients and he basically ended up talking to some > > pretty high up people and this was the only way we got the dam thing > > installed. > > This is because EVERYONE (Verio included) uses either: > > the local telco > Northpoint > Covad > > in NYC. There's RedConnect, but they are a whole other story... > > > It is scary that with all the pushing it took us almost 3 months. Don't > > want to think how long it takes if one doesn't call daily. We did > > waited a little over a month before we started calling daily. > > Originally they promissed in 2 to 3 weeks. > > At least they're optimistic ;) > > > It is a 200K line, however did a couple of simple downloads and was > > only getting 4K to 6K downloading. > > I had to leave shortly after having got the line up, but plan to do > > further testing soon. > > > > What kind of thoughtput should I see in a 200K line? > > A 200 kilobit line should give you about 23 KiloBytes (what Netscape and > most ftp clients report in) to a well-connected site (taking out a bit of > the ATM overhead). > > > And for those in the NorthEast... Avoid using Verio as an ISP.. not > > only it took them a long time to get things done, but they totally > > ignored our calls and we had to call their main office (in the west > > coast I believe) to get things done.... and in the end it turned out > > that the installation was done by another company (northpoint) which > > makes me think Verio may be just a reseller... At least in this area. > > They are a reseller everywhere, but they do have a TV ad campaign. The > cost involved in putting DSL in every CO is very high, especially if you > want to cover the 5 boroughs of NYC, so there is really only Covad, > Northpoint, Bell ATlantic, and Red in the COs. In less populated areas > you might see a smaller ISP trying this on their own, but going through a > reseller (we use Covad) eliminates the need for us to roll trucks for > installs or battle with Bell Atlantic over getting a decent copper pair > for a customer. While I've seen some of our SDSL installs go very slowly, > Covad is good enough to uptdate the ISP partner and customer on a regular > basis. The delays are usually: > > Covad can't get the copper > Bell Atlantic gives them an unusable line > > Both of these result in a lengthy and painful series of trouble tickets > between Bell and Covad. However, all our DSL customers do seem to be > happy customers once it works... > > Charles > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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