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Date:      Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:12:02 +0200
From:      Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>
To:        Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org>,  freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>
Subject:   Re: RFC: Remove pty(4)
Message-ID:  <53F4E4F2.3060709@selasky.org>
In-Reply-To: <CACYV=-E1BA3rHP5s%2BCs-X-J5CNAaSNxDgqPkgnJu3uUXCyaUGA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 08/20/14 20:00, Davide Italiano wrote:
> One of my personal goals for 11 is to get rid of cloning mechanism
> entirely, and pty(4) is one of the few in-kernel drivers still relying
> on such mechanism.
> It's not possible, at least to my understanding, converting pty(4) to
> cdevpriv(9) as happened with other drivers. This is mainly because we
> always need a pair of devices (/dev/ptyXX and /dev/ttyXX) and
> userspace loops over ptyXX and after it successfully opens it tries to
> open the other one with the same suffix. So, having a single device is
> not really enough.
> My option, instead, is that of removing pty(4), which is nothing more
> than a compatibility driver, and move pmtx(4) code somewhere else.
> The main drawback of the removal of this is that it makes impossible
> to run FreeBSD <= 7 jails and SSH into them. I personally don't
> consider this a huge issue, in light of the fact that FreeBSD-7 has
> been EOL for a long time, but I would like to hear other people
> comments.
>
> The code review for the proposed change can be found here:
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D659
>
> If I won't get any objection I'll commit this in one week time, i.e.
> August 27th.
>

Hi,

There is support for creating character device aliases, regarding paired 
devices.

BTW: Can an application using libcuse fix this issue in userspace?

--HPS



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