Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:37:34 +0100 From: David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..] Message-ID: <AD003A7C-E122-4C8E-8EC6-E83AA1163610@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <501AB8C0.3020102@FreeBSD.org> References: <CACqU3MUh1XPScRHNc-ivOYLmbG0_UqpwBNWeoPA84uSOESH_bg@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-FndCHxpTfc%2Bb5zgiX2NheaQN1LcJXBRubef4_GAYCy_pb2g@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MWo=ieaduuwZDF6SfzUUS5y1qzP5e2Ddg6Aphnz_O2PJw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-FndCDpD3rnQFwiOSGofP9cPCxC5Zo%2BPLfxALY8pnE=2HQMA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MW2JEtDK0Ngdf_Br6D%2BVvdU1B9LmN0fm0F9=bG0f2iW4Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomhHxG8t9Sw7de%2BzUnbz0O5GSY4ifpHFtCb9JS_zS0rBA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MUKGcy8rNz0FcZLVat49BmRLD3hVKX%2BOXxkzwRDugKtAw@mail.gmail.com> <612DA8A3-121E-4E72-9E5B-F3CBA9DEB7F7@bsdimp.com> <CACqU3MU-WyNFf5UZGx15m_HWBx_6W272qkfqHHJ8G7v%2BJCK2Sw@mail.gmail.com> <FAE07410-CA99-4061-856F-799DB9D225BE@bsdimp.com> <501A0258.4010101@FreeBSD.org> <CA622462-DB69-40E4-9E1D-A4D83AEB12F8@theravensnest.org> <501AAEF2.8060202@FreeBSD.org> <DB8DF40B-BEFE-4BA3-A79B-27E2ECA31DC3@FreeBSD.org> <501AB8C0.3020102@FreeBSD.org>
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On 2 Aug 2012, at 18:28, Doug Barton wrote: > Welcome to the 21st Century. :) There are widely available audio and > video conferencing solutions that easily scale into the thousands of > users, at minimal cost. >=20 > Yes, "It takes effort." I get that. I've been part of the effort to > provide remote participation for other groups, on a much larger scale > than anything FreeBSD can dream of. >=20 > My point, and I cannot emphasize this highly enough, is that your = entire > mindset about this is all wrong. It needs to shift from "We'll do this > on a small scale, for those who ask" to "We'll make providing robust > remote participation a top priority, built into the planning from day > 1." It's as simple as that. Thank you for volunteering to organise this. It's good to see people = with both the motivation and experience required to do something well = actively contributing to the project. David=
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